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Re: macOS in Svelte

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This is obviously a personal preference of yours or you have never used KDE Plasma.

Well looking at the numbers it's a preference of a very sizable group of people.

Being many or a majority doesn't necessarily mean being right though. They are completely unrelated. It's a very weak defense of Apple design choices versus KDE (or anything else).

Re: macOS in Svelte

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As a long time Mac user, in my opinion what has historically distinguished the Mac from other platforms is the high degree of UI/UX consistency across applications. Mac users historically valued software products that conformed to the Apple Human Interface Guidelines and tended to shun non-compliant products; this is why Microsoft Word 5.1 was so well-received by classic Mac users while Microsoft Word 6 was rejected…

I started using Macs 5-6 years ago due to the companies I was working at providing Macbooks and maybe my intuition is ruined by Windows, but I still find Mac very unintuitive and frustrating. I also use Windows and Ubuntu personally and I like both of these more design, smoothness and animation wise. I feel like everything about the macOS is just weird and the animations are also really weird, like minimizing the win…

Just an FYI but the minimise window animation can be changed in settings. As can the icon zoom and bounce.

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Deal with what? I selected some click and point options from a very clear and easy to read menu, downloaded some themes from a nice shiny, easy to use theme downloader, it took me all of a half hour to an hour or so to set things up about a decade ago and I have had to do a minimal amount of work since. Little tweaks,improvements here and there as I find better ways of doing things but otherwise, it was not much work…

Options beget choice. Choices need a decision, which requires energy. We can reframe what is called in german Innerer Schweinehund as our innate, hardwired wetware program to conserve energy. Lions and all other cats sleep most of the day, because hunting, which succeeds 1 out of 10 times, requires a lot of energy. We now live in an environment where food is abundant, no running after gazelles till think break down f…

That's nonsense. Having options doesn't mean you have to pick one. Having 1 choice or 10 with a default set is the same unless you start digging into options. This smells like "Apple Knows Best".

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Deal with what? I selected some click and point options from a very clear and easy to read menu, downloaded some themes from a nice shiny, easy to use theme downloader, it took me all of a half hour to an hour or so to set things up about a decade ago and I have had to do a minimal amount of work since. Little tweaks,improvements here and there as I find better ways of doing things but otherwise, it was not much work…

>If you can use a computer to do basic tasks, it's really not hard. If you can't navigate some menus that have confusing titles like, desktop settings and themes and display options and widgets and you can't click and drag things around, whatever OS you use will be a struggle. I did the Unix porn thing for years, it got old. Not a single bit of that sounds appealing at this point in my life.

Luckily you have a choice. You could even choose not to use those choices or choose to pay someone to decide what is best for you.

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Gotta be honest, the last mac I ever used ran OS8 I think, maybe 9, it was one of the classic Mac os's either way. I know this is just a UI recreation and not the actual OS but as a long time KDE user, like over a decade, I can't help but think meh, why does this UI get so much praise? I can make my desktop look, act and behave literally any way I want, I can modify every single aspect of every single thing on my des…

I have previously used basically any open source operating system you can name. From Ubuntu through building Gentoo or building my own LFS all the way to trying NetBSD and QNX on desktop - silly, I know. I've been a Mac user ever since 2013 and I feel like it's consistency beats any other desktop environment. I never have to worry about something not working. I don't have to tell my colleagues at the end of a project…

Comparing an uncustomized OS to a customized one and then stating that it is a waste of time to customize the OS and hence the OS that cannot be customized is better is a bit... odd.

I have no idea what a "custom WiFi icon" is but I'm guessing you bought something with prebundled apps. That is irrelevant to the discussion of consistency in one OS versus another (but of course important in the buying process but that's another matter).

>or they're using a different protocol then the one I have at home.

You are making a pretty bad case for Mac as Apple is the one that creates and enforced all kinds of "standards" instead of using what everyone else agreed upon years ago. Apple doesn't implement the full WiFi standards, they use their own standards for everything from chargers to media streaming protocols to connectors.

There's a lot of good to be said of Mac but it using the same protocols as everyone else is not one. Unless you ban everything else and live in an Apple world but then standards are completely irrelevant anyway.

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Open source and free software is free. Even if you value your time. Sorry for being a pedant.

No one has claimed you would have to pay for open/free software. But, as with everything else, you need to calculate the total cost of ownership. And there your personal effort or your efficiency comes into play.

Yes but having choices doesn't take time, only using them does. Picking one OS over the other because of many options is basically saying "I can't have choices because I can't stop myself from using them". What takes time is having an OS you have to fight because it refuses to do what you need it to do because of some decision taken by Apple. When that happens MacOS gets extremely expensive in time.

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Project author here :) Can't express my gratitude enough for sharing this here. Thanks you!

You rock dude!!

I see you made some submissions that didn't get a lot of traction. HN sucks like that - sometimes you need someone else to give your project visibility. Hope you get some well deserved publicity now.

Re: macOS in Svelte

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Project author here :) Can't express my gratitude enough for sharing this here. Thanks you!

This is dope, congrats.

I've read in other comments that you also built this in React... I think people would kill to read a deep dive of the differences you've seen between both frameworks in the context of building this project. I'm a hardcore React user, and Svelte looks great, but what prevents me from adopting it is that I don't have enough info of what its limitations "at the edges" may be in a complex project (whereas I understand React very well in this sense).

Barring a full-on technical blog post - which I think would get you a lot of exposure, but is too much to ask - if you could share some thoughts here I would really appreciate it.

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