The use of backdrop-filter triggers a fascinating bug in Firefox if you have manually enabled it (about:config, layout.css.backdrop-filter.enabled = true): the menus have a `backdrop-filter: blur(25px)`, and when they’re closed, the menus are hidden with `visibility: hidden` (I can’t see any reason why `display: none` is not used, you should normally prefer it), and this triggers https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1600485, where the blurred backdrop still gets rendered, making the areas underneath those menus basically useless as they’re blurred beyond recognition.
macOS in Svelte
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Re: macOS in Svelte
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Deal with what? I selected some click and point options from a very clear and easy to read menu, downloaded some themes from a nice shiny, easy to use theme downloader, it took me all of a half hour to an hour or so to set things up about a decade ago and I have had to do a minimal amount of work since. Little tweaks,improvements here and there as I find better ways of doing things but otherwise, it was not much work…
I have a _huge_ problem where if I can endlessly tweak something, I will waste hours doing so. I used to do the same with my Android devices, flashing newer nightly rom builds every night for cyanogen. My macOS/iOS devices "just work" and I have very few gripes with their chosen defaults.
And that's the desktop environment's fault you lack self control?
You're blaming your own inability to control yourself on a desktop environment providing too many options. Not everyone lacks self control.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#23Gotta be honest, the last mac I ever used ran OS8 I think, maybe 9, it was one of the classic Mac os's either way. I know this is just a UI recreation and not the actual OS but as a long time KDE user, like over a decade, I can't help but think meh, why does this UI get so much praise? I can make my desktop look, act and behave literally any way I want, I can modify every single aspect of every single thing on my des…
Because I have zero interest in tweaking and messing with it. I want sane defaults, consistent keyboard shortcuts and when I plug something in I want it to just work.
Xfce on Arch then? Shit, my Gentoo/Xfce gives me that too. Apple is all hype.
In the last 12 months there's been loud threads on HN about Apple and MS breakage and user hostility. Meanwhile, my old installs keep working, out of my way. I've been through a few big Xfce updates too - it got better, objectively better and didn't break anything - and never once (since 2007) has it disrespected me with any user hostile $BigCo_MiddleManager bullshit.
In short: cheers to Linux, Gentoo, Arch and Xfce.
So stable my 70+ "boomer" family can use it. My pop thinks it's "as easy as Win95"
Re: macOS in Svelte
#24Gotta be honest, the last mac I ever used ran OS8 I think, maybe 9, it was one of the classic Mac os's either way. I know this is just a UI recreation and not the actual OS but as a long time KDE user, like over a decade, I can't help but think meh, why does this UI get so much praise? I can make my desktop look, act and behave literally any way I want, I can modify every single aspect of every single thing on my des…
Back im my day we used to skin the shit out of our winamp. Used to show off our latest look whenever you had a friend come over. Good times.
I found a disc with some of my olde skins recently, some of the real premo ones that to translate to todays lingo; were rarer than a rare pepe and spicier than a spicy meme.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a _huge_ problem where if I can endlessly tweak something, I will waste hours doing so. I used to do the same with my Android devices, flashing newer nightly rom builds every night for cyanogen. My macOS/iOS devices "just work" and I have very few gripes with their chosen defaults.
And that's the desktop environment's fault you lack self control? You're blaming your own inability to control yourself on a desktop environment providing too many options. Not everyone lacks self control.
Where did I blame the Desktop Environment? Nowhere did I state such, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I find the interoperability of my devices _great_ and I can't get that with Linux. I'd rather spend those hours tweaking servers, or projects, than some pointless (and typically subpar) Linux DE. I don't want to deal with that, as others have pointed out.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because I have zero interest in tweaking and messing with it. I want sane defaults, consistent keyboard shortcuts and when I plug something in I want it to just work.
Xfce on Arch then? Shit, my Gentoo/Xfce gives me that too. Apple is all hype. In the last 12 months there's been loud threads on HN about Apple and MS breakage and user hostility. Meanwhile, my old installs keep working, out of my way. I've been through a few big Xfce updates too - it got better, objectively better and didn't break anything - and never once (since 2007) has it disrespected me with any user hostile $B…
No means no. Stop bugging people and forcing your dogma on them.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Why do people pay the premium for this? Because... >I can make my desktop act and behave literally any way I want, I can modify every single aspect of every single thing on my desktop to suit my work flows and everything I do on a computer exactly so my computer does exactly what I want, when I want, exactly how I want it to in the exact way I want things to be done. I haven't changed much over the years, i've copie…
Deal with what? I selected some click and point options from a very clear and easy to read menu, downloaded some themes from a nice shiny, easy to use theme downloader, it took me all of a half hour to an hour or so to set things up about a decade ago and I have had to do a minimal amount of work since. Little tweaks,improvements here and there as I find better ways of doing things but otherwise, it was not much work…
Options beget choice. Choices need a decision, which requires energy. We can reframe what is called in german Innerer Schweinehund as our innate, hardwired wetware program to conserve energy. Lions and all other cats sleep most of the day, because hunting, which succeeds 1 out of 10 times, requires a lot of energy. We now live in an environment where food is abundant, no running after gazelles till think break down from overheating required. Now it becomes apparent why many people prefer convenience without thinking over choice.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#28The use of backdrop-filter triggers a fascinating bug in Firefox if you have manually enabled it (about:config, layout.css.backdrop-filter.enabled = true): the menus have a `backdrop-filter: blur(25px)`, and when they’re closed, the menus are hidden with `visibility: hidden` (I can’t see any reason why `display: none` is not used, you should normally prefer it), and this triggers https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug…
Without having opened the page: visibility can be animated using CSS transitions, so you can fade in/out the menus. Display doesn't work that way, so that's probably the reason.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why do people pay the premium for this UI Apple forces you to use? Because we like it. Why does that make you so upset? You could have spent the 10 minutes you spent typing that rant out in being productive with whatever you have instead of raging about my purchases with my money.
Can you provide some details other then just 'because we like it'? That's not really explaining things at all. That's just an emotional defensive response with nothing to back it up.
You seem to have a fairly combative tone, which I suggest you temper a little bit if you want to have an actual discussion.
Having said that, since when is an emotional reason to use something not a valid reason?
I mean, I don't like MacOS for a bunch of reasons that are probably unreasonable or emotional, but that's my right too.
Re: macOS in Svelte
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why do people pay the premium for this UI Apple forces you to use? Because we like it. Why does that make you so upset? You could have spent the 10 minutes you spent typing that rant out in being productive with whatever you have instead of raging about my purchases with my money.
Can you provide some details other then just 'because we like it'? That's not really explaining things at all. That's just an emotional defensive response with nothing to back it up.
Can you stop being obnoxious about other people’s preferences and just get on with your own shit if you’re so happy with it?