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Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

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Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#51
I used to use Opera a few years ago, but its Javascript performance was iffy. By the time they fixed it, I was already hooked on Firefox, and if I recall correctly, Dragonfly wasn't as mature. After switching to Mac, I tried Opera again, but it -still- doesn't support inertial scrolling, so I'm currently using Chrome.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#52
I used Opera, when it still was paid-for software, because it was light and fast. I left Opera when they started including everything but the kitchen sink (Mail client, etc.) in the browser.

I never quite understood why they did not release the applications separately. They probably wanted to compete with the Mozilla suite.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#53

Opera is one of those things that I have really tried to like, but that just never really caught on. It's like when you are picking a movie: that intellectual foreign movie has been in your queue for a week, but you are tired so you just grab the nearest retarded Michael Bay movie to relax. The few times I used Opera I really liked it. I think the guys behind the browser are very innovative and it's a shame that they…

> it's a shame that they seem to be always running behind on standards compliance, causing all kinds of problems in daily usage. It feels a bit to me like you're reiterating a myth. I've used opera for 5 years and I've never run into this, afair. I virtually only get problems when devs use browser detection and then tell me that "this site does not work on opera". I've also had problems with sites that were just only…

You may be right. Like I said, it has been a while since I last used Opera (several years) and then there were many instances where I had to switch to other browsers to be able to proceed. Most annoyingly, my online banking would work in Firefox (and I'm sure in IE), but not in Opera. These things made it very annoying for daily use.

Maybe it is not fair to blame Opera for quirks and deviations from standards any more than others. The difference is that Opera has such a small market share that developers don't account for Opera's quirks as much as they do for IE, Firefox and Webkit.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#54

I was not able to use Opera at work for years because of lack of socks proxy support. With each release I would download Opera, install it, check that it still doesn't have socks support and gave up. Using SocksCap or FreeCap for that was just annoying. After some time I stopped caring about Opera. Now, I don't even bother to test on it.

It does have socks proxy support now, just FYI.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#55

I was not able to use Opera at work for years because of lack of socks proxy support. With each release I would download Opera, install it, check that it still doesn't have socks support and gave up. Using SocksCap or FreeCap for that was just annoying. After some time I stopped caring about Opera. Now, I don't even bother to test on it.

It does have socks proxy support now, just FYI.

What about shoes proxy support?

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#56
post #2

I don't use Opera and I never test it because the user base is not big enough to matter. My experience with Opera has always resulted in broken websites because of their poor rendering engine (in my opinion). I still can't believe the Opera browser has existed from the beginning of browsers and still exists today and their market share hasn't really gone up significantly.

> their poor rendering engine

That's an rather misleading and ignorant thing to say.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#57

I used to use Opera a few years ago, but its Javascript performance was iffy. By the time they fixed it, I was already hooked on Firefox, and if I recall correctly, Dragonfly wasn't as mature. After switching to Mac, I tried Opera again, but it -still- doesn't support inertial scrolling, so I'm currently using Chrome.

JavaScript performance was iffy? Opera always had the best JS performance by far, except for that year or two when everyone else started using JIT.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#58
Really, I'm quite fond of Opera. It's pretty good about standards compliance and I really enjoy the Opera Portal where I can keep up on all my favorite blogs from my start page. I think where Opera falls short for me is the Dragonfly plugin. Whenever I want to modify CSS live, Dragonfly makes it such a clumsy process. I find firebug to be far more intuitive.

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#59

Opera is one of those things that I have really tried to like, but that just never really caught on. It's like when you are picking a movie: that intellectual foreign movie has been in your queue for a week, but you are tired so you just grab the nearest retarded Michael Bay movie to relax. The few times I used Opera I really liked it. I think the guys behind the browser are very innovative and it's a shame that they…

It is most likely because Opera was almost the only lone browser that refused to have 'Mozilla' in its user agent string from the very beginning.

A lot of websites still use UA detection scripts from late 90s(!) which STILL do antiquated UA sniffing which means Opera does not get scripts, styles or markup because it does not seem to have the 'Mozilla' in its UA string leading to broken pages.

There is an easy fix if it is an irritant which is to select 'Edit Site Preferences > Network' from the context menu on a page.

Also, we would be much obliged if you could submit a bug report if you come across a site that does not render correctly in Opera: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

If you are a web developer, please do consider using feature-detection :)

Re: Poll: Do you use Opera (the browser)?

#60
post #50

I tried to get into Opera Mini. I liked it because it is speedier than the stock Android browser, it handles tabs well, and the interface does pretty much what I expect most of the time. But I found that on a weak wireless signal it would just give up on loading the page, and its startup time was just enough to make it cumbersome. It has since been removed from my phone.

You could try Opera Mobile instead. That's a more traditional browser and may perform better.
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