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Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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I have no love for these "fact checkers" which are nothing but mercenaries of the left but how does this revelation diminish the trust people should put on Snopes?

Other than the materially false statements? Gee, I guess nothing.

In the articles? Like what?

Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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post #14
post #12

I have no love for these "fact checkers" which are nothing but mercenaries of the left but how does this revelation diminish the trust people should put on Snopes?

Other than the materially false statements? Gee, I guess nothing.

If the materially false statement is the article's byline? Any port in a storm, I guess, but this isn't solid reasoning.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a sadly similar story. They're downright extreme nowadays.

Hey everybody, SPLC just added eplanit to their extremists lists. We shouldn't listen to him.

Is eplanit a disaster-capitalist or racist? That's usually what triggers it...

Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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Snopes is truly disappointing and slanted. It’s early days it was a good reference tool… sadly in our divided times Snopes has clearly a political slant.

Can you provide an example of an article that you feel has a clear political slant?

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Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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Snopes lost credibility when they teamed up with Facebook

Snopes lost credibility when they "fact checked" the Babylon Bee, a site which is clearly labeled as satire and never claimed to be real news. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/07/31/fact-c...

Lots of folks get confused about satire sites. It is a positive development if you can find another site on the internet that says "even if this is satire, this is why they are wrong".

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post #11

Snopes is truly disappointing and slanted. It’s early days it was a good reference tool… sadly in our divided times Snopes has clearly a political slant.

Can you provide an example of an article that you feel has a clear political slant?

What about these?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-vaccine-passport/

Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I can almost imagine a way to arrive at this conclusion without it being shifty (although no idea what the case actually is here). If you're going to debunk an article about something like a lack of vaccine safety and need to retract a couple of sentences later, but the overall conclusion is the same, then the conspiracists will be right on you with a diff of the changes from the archive trying to piece toge…

Then one can update to provide a prominent note of clarification, rather than rewriting history. This deprives conspiracists of the ability to go "See, they rewrite history" while providing the full story, warts and all.

That's 100% standard practice for any reputable news organization.

Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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> Marchionni is reevaluating decisions Mikkelson made years earlier to not allow Snopes stories to be archived on the Wayback Machine and is empowered to make any changes necessary. Not the most immediate important thing, but hiding content from the Wayback Machine that is purported to be factual record is very problematic, to say the least

I’m still struggling to understand why they’d want to block that. Edit: on re-reading I realize it’s so that they don’t get caught for this plagiarism since their modus operandi was plagiarize first rewrite slowly.

One possible scenario that's not evil: If they get something wrong and correct it, people that don't believe the correction can pass around links to the archive.org version before the correction.

Not saying I agree with the decision or that's why they did it, just a possible reason.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m still struggling to understand why they’d want to block that. Edit: on re-reading I realize it’s so that they don’t get caught for this plagiarism since their modus operandi was plagiarize first rewrite slowly.

"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

"We were always at war with eastasia"

Re: Co-founder of Snopes was writing plagiarized articles under a fake name

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Can someone explain what the difference between this and pulling stuff off the AP machine is? I see almost identical news articles all the time across major news outlets. My partner used to work at a company and would write all their news, spotlights and press releases. They commonly would see paragraphs taken by major news outlets without attribution. She tells me that’s just how it was. I’m not in the industry but…

Reprinting and attributing is allowed. Copying and not attributing it isn’t, because besides the whole theft aspect, it implies that you yourself observed or researched the given assertions.
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