"Supported by Chan-Zuckerberg initiative" this will be great for conspiracy theorists
um i'm pretty sure that's true for all biorxiv papers
SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
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Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#32"Supported by Chan-Zuckerberg initiative" this will be great for conspiracy theorists
We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. We’ve got another made by a company that’s been embroiled in a 4-decade long controversy over asbestos in baby talcum powder that only recently issued a recall, denying it all the way and claiming it’s safe. I assure you, Zuck isn’t needed for any negativity here. These companies are awful and they’re not to be trusted. Period.
They got a liability waiver for the vaccines, no need to be concerned
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed, lambda doesn't seem to be growing vs. delta anywhere. It's so frustrating to watch the media fall into this trap, just google "lambda covid" and you'll find a flood of breathless headlines about this "new dangerous variant" and like no warnings from any experts at all.
A significant part of news media has devolved into a curse for humanity. Their main objective is getting eyeballs, so their headlines have become anxiety-inducing. Anxious people check the news more often. Their ultimate objective earning money with ads/publicity, so maybe that curse boils down (again) to advertisement.
Devolved? Have you seen the headlines from a 100 years ago. What golden age of media would you suggest we have devolved from?
The media is what they always were alarmist who selectively report in order to maximize profits while carefully falling in with the most powerful but always trying to appear distanced and at odds with.
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. We’ve got another made by a company that’s been embroiled in a 4-decade long controversy over asbestos in baby talcum powder that only recently issued a recall, denying it all the way and claiming it’s safe. I assure you, Zuck isn’t needed for any negativity here. These companies are awful and they’re not to be trusted. Period.
They got a liability waiver for the vaccines, no need to be concerned
Oh it gets better - the populace is turning on you if you weren’t as gullible as them in taking an experimental vaccine. How dare you think you’re above us, they snark.
But it’s all gravy, it hasn’t even been a year and the same extortionist racket that plagues the country’s lack of affordable healthcare has already pocketed $22B from this. Booster shots? Already turning it into a subscription model.
Keep the downvotes coming lads we are in it for the long-covid haul.
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#35Interesting that they only studied vaccine-induced immunity. Not a single word about natural immunity.
You're more than twice as likely to be reinfected if you have immunity through previous infection. Vaccine protection is significantly better. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210811/COVID-19-vaccines...
There are multiple longitudinal studies with large cohorts whose conclusions completely disagree.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
https://apps.who.int/iris/handle/10665/341241
The meta-conclusion is that natural immunity is at least as effective as the Pfizer/Moderna, and more protective than the J&J vaccine.
There isn't a collection of billion dollar multi-national pharma companies pushing studies on natural immunity, nor are public health experts talking about it, creating a false impression in the mind of the public.
Trust me, I got the "redneck vaccine" in February, before I was eligible for the real vaccines. I still haven't recovered all of my sense of smell, and don't recommend it. That being said, I am also at increased risk of complications from the vaccine due to having a sky-high level of antibodies in my blood according to my doctor. I visit him monthly, and at his recommendation I will be getting the shot as soon as the antibodies wane.
Edit: Here is clinical evidence of worse side effects for previously infected individuals getting vaccinated
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
Really obnoxious that my comment is getting downvoted with no rebuttals.
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
A significant part of news media has devolved into a curse for humanity. Their main objective is getting eyeballs, so their headlines have become anxiety-inducing. Anxious people check the news more often. Their ultimate objective earning money with ads/publicity, so maybe that curse boils down (again) to advertisement.
Devolved? Have you seen the headlines from a 100 years ago. What golden age of media would you suggest we have devolved from? The media is what they always were alarmist who selectively report in order to maximize profits while carefully falling in with the most powerful but always trying to appear distanced and at odds with.
> maximize profits while carefully falling in with the most powerful
That's not really consistent with the evidence though. Elite media in this circumstance seems to be treating lambda relatively calmly. It's outfits like the NY Post ("Deadly Lambda variant could be neutralizing vaccines"), Daily Beast ("Tokyo Deliberately Left Deadly New COVID Variant Out of Press Briefings"), etc...
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#37"Supported by Chan-Zuckerberg initiative" this will be great for conspiracy theorists
We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. We’ve got another made by a company that’s been embroiled in a 4-decade long controversy over asbestos in baby talcum powder that only recently issued a recall, denying it all the way and claiming it’s safe. I assure you, Zuck isn’t needed for any negativity here. These companies are awful and they’re not to be trusted. Period.
> We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots.
The risk of getting a blood clot from the J&J vaccine is 400,000:1. This is less likely than dying of COVID in any age category. 0.00025%.
The risk of dying in a car accident in America is 0.01% every year. So you're 40X more likely to die in a car accident this year alone than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine.
The risk of being injured in a car accident in America is 1.15% every year. So you're 6000X more likely to be injured in a car accident this year than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine.
Nothing in life is risk-free. This is pretty close though.
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#38Its more than half way through 2021 and Sweden has recorded its second-lowest annual deaths in the past 5 years:
https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
The 1st lowest? 2019, the year before the pandemic.
Suggesting a lot of mortality displacement from 2019 and 2021 into 2020.
Re: SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant exhibits higher infectivity and immune resistance
#39Can we avoid linking to pre published studies? People base their opinions on articles like these before the process has a chance to make corrections
Releasing studies to the world is the process, the more eyes on it the faster you find issues.
I think many people overestimate the thoroughness of reviewers and underestimate the thoroughness of the world at large.
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#40Ah wonderful. The next hot new variant is here for the media and health “experts” to fearmonger over.
When are people gonna realize that until they tune out all the doomsday prognosticators, this will never end? The people that tell us to be afraid are never going to tell us it is safe. Ever.
Covid and all its spooky variants are here forever. Get your vaccine and be done. Life is way, way too short to cower away in fear forever.