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Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#51

With Huawei behaving this way can we trust our electronic devices made in China? Are there devices purely made in South Korea or Taiwan? (Note I don’t say this with some kind of anti-China sentiment, I’m pretty sure I’d be worried about the NSA back-dooring everything too if it was made in the US).

NSA is backdooring stuff that’s not even being manufactured in the US. The way it works in US, with “national security letters” and gag orders, means no US-based company can realistically refuse it.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#52

Seems fitting. With Pakistan backing the Taliban I hooe that this information is an leaked and made public. A nuclear power with a chatotic-evil government is backing religious extremists who are taking over Afghanistan, again and are violently forcing extremist wahhabi on the people. Imagine what will happen when the taliban takes over Pakistan. The more leaks the better.

> Imagine what will happen when the taliban takes over Pakistan. Will anyone know? Only fours days ago, a wee 8 year-old child was formally charged with blasphemy - which carries the death sentence. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/09/e...

> Will anyone know?

yes, because the sect that is responsible for all the blasphemy accusations (like the one you linked) is separate from the sect that the Taliban follow, sparks will fly between the groups, and they have a significant numbers advantage in pakistan.

in other words, the taliban can't capture pakistan because a different sect already has ;p

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#53

With Huawei behaving this way can we trust our electronic devices made in China? Are there devices purely made in South Korea or Taiwan? (Note I don’t say this with some kind of anti-China sentiment, I’m pretty sure I’d be worried about the NSA back-dooring everything too if it was made in the US).

>With Huawei behaving this way can we trust our electronic devices made in China?

In industry this is called a supply chain attack, and the answer has been a resounding "no, of course we can't trust those devices" for years and years.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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Ha! Is this news to them? Of course they would not honor a contract they can ignore. You can put as many contracts and multiple factors and audit trails as you want, if they want your trade secrets and you do a venture with them, I guess be happy for the short term money, but your IP will be gone.

I think this about Intel using TSMC as a foundry - why TSMC want to help their biggest competitor become more competitive and learn from your business dealings I don’t know…

Who do you think is learning from who in this situation?

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#55
post #51

With Huawei behaving this way can we trust our electronic devices made in China? Are there devices purely made in South Korea or Taiwan? (Note I don’t say this with some kind of anti-China sentiment, I’m pretty sure I’d be worried about the NSA back-dooring everything too if it was made in the US).

NSA is backdooring stuff that’s not even being manufactured in the US. The way it works in US, with “national security letters” and gag orders, means no US-based company can realistically refuse it.

That's exactly why I buy Huawei devices. USA govt could see me as the enemy one day for all I know. But the Chinese have no reason on earth to take interest in me. Seems the safer risk.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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> According to the complaint, authorities in Pakistan invited various companies to submit proposals, including Motorola, Nokia, and Huawei This sounds surprising, are Motorola and Nokia really in the police IT systems business? The common factor among the 3 companies seems to be that they make mobile phone related things.

Motorola sold their phone business to Google, Nokia sold there’s to Microsoft, Nokia then sold their name to a Chinese phone company and are just involved in telecommunication equipment these days, so is Motorola it seems.

Yep, I meant mobile phone network infra, all 3 companies are in that business afaik. And the article talks about some general police IT infra project.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NSA is backdooring stuff that’s not even being manufactured in the US. The way it works in US, with “national security letters” and gag orders, means no US-based company can realistically refuse it.

That's exactly why I buy Huawei devices. USA govt could see me as the enemy one day for all I know. But the Chinese have no reason on earth to take interest in me. Seems the safer risk.

Lol.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#58

The claims about huawei in the west were never substantiated. Are these?

Which claims? They have quite a rep sheet! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Huawei

Per your own link (Espionage and security concerns section), there are dozens of "expressions of concern" and similar, but no one has ever found the backdoor that is apparently totally definately there...

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#59
post #13

Huawei is following their playbook from the Nortel days. Why would anyone expect them to stop doing what brought them to success? Malicious Life made a great 3 episode podcast series on that. https://www.cybereason.com/blog/malicious-life-podcast-china... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Huawei#Nortel

Nortel had deeper issues than some industrial espionage to deal with: accounting fraud.

That scared the market and potential investors in a spectacular fashion.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this about Intel using TSMC as a foundry - why TSMC want to help their biggest competitor become more competitive and learn from your business dealings I don’t know…

Who do you think is learning from who in this situation?

Intel from TSMC?
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