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Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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All food CPI is up 2.1% this year, housing of course is much more but that's what the article is about so where's the lie?

Food items are swapped out for lower cost 'substitutes'. I can't imagine someone cooking those numbers

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Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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package size is factored into inflation.

Package constituents are not.

Most of the food items counted are regulated or graded eg beef. So the package constituents are being considered generally.

Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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Didn't people start America because the places they came from hundreds of years ago, Britain, Germany, France etc. were so oppressively unequal with respect to wealth and liberty? So, hundreds of years later, what have they created? Something better? Something similar? Something same same but different? https://www.thebalancecareers.com/top-worst-paid-jobs-206169...

> Didn't people start America because the places they came from hundreds of years ago, Britain, Germany, France etc. were so oppressively unequal with respect to wealth and liberty? No not really. As far as I understand it was religious freedom which brought the pilgrims, and then the American revolution was about tyrannical government.

The pilgrims and Puritans wanted to practice their own interpretation of Christianity. They did not support any wider concept of religious freedom and had no qualms about persecuting other religious groups like Baptists and Quakers.

Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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> Didn't people start America because the places they came from hundreds of years ago, Britain, Germany, France etc. were so oppressively unequal with respect to wealth and liberty? No not really. As far as I understand it was religious freedom which brought the pilgrims, and then the American revolution was about tyrannical government.

The pilgrims and Puritans wanted to practice their own interpretation of Christianity. They did not support any wider concept of religious freedom and had no qualms about persecuting other religious groups like Baptists and Quakers.

If I recall my history classes right, the sorta-free-market startup culture for English new-world colonies to suit each religion is why there were 13 different ones, right? PA for Quakers, MD for Catholics, etc.

Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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or we could pay people more so they earn a living wage

How is that mutually exclusive of having more functional stable 2 parent homes? We can do both.

functional stable two parent homes does not have to mean two income homes

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>Anyone who didn't get a 20% raise this year lost money. but inflation (as measured by CPI) isn't anywhere close to 20%?

Housing prices across the board have jumped 40% on average -- in the past year. In the insane prop 13 fueled market that is california bay area increases are closer to 65% in the past year.

The Case Shiller index shows a significant price increase but nowhere near 40%.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CSUSHPINSA

Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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No they haven’t. “According to Zillow, the typical value of U.S. homes is $269,039 as of January 2021, a 9.1% increase from January 2020. Between 1999 and 2021, the median price has more than doubled from $111,000 to $269,039.”

What about only including data from places people want to live? You can buy a house in South Dakota for 25,000, but that not useful information when looking at national housing inflation.

South Dakota would be nice. We were up there for a couple days this spring and it was tempting. Nice people, little bit of scenery, cost of living is reasonable. Definitely beats moving to someplace that's crowded and hectic or at high risk for flooding or wildfires.

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The problem is that worries about inflation are only ever trotted out when relief for individuals is being considered. Money printing to juice the markets happens without concern or debate. The bailout that caused all the current asset inflation happened reflexively after a single day drop in the stock market at the start of Covid. Executives had looted companies by loading them up with debt that relied on optimistic…

> Executives had looted companies by loading them up with debt that relied on optimistic cashflow, gave themselves bonuses for that "optimization", and then got bailed out when the cashflow slowed. These companies should have been restructured in bankruptcy, with the executives going to jail for violation of fiduciary duty. By "optimistic cashflow", do you mean the assumption that the government wouldn't suddenly ban…

No, I mean they assumed that there would not be a significant slowdown of economic activity due to something like a pandemic, recession, depression, natural disaster, or even a market shift. Trying to pin the blame on the government is a bit disingenuous when there was an overarching condition that everybody was responding to.

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>But… that is inflation did I say it wasn't? The BLS freely admits that inflation is higher than usual at 5.4% YOY. What's being disputed is whether it's 5.4% as the BLS claims or 20% as GGP claims. >Is this effect global? Who knows, it’s anecdata The problem is that listing a bunch of things that's gone up by 20% doesn't mean the overall CPI went up 20%. CPI is a weighted measure, so the things you listed only contr…

I read the gp comments as questioning the relevance of the CPI. From my experience it understates the very real price increases I am seeing where I am

The prices faced by the average tech worker are very different. Restaurant prices in SF have one of the highest increasing prices indices in the country, you can look it up.

Ubers have also increased in price.

Groceries.. have not.

Re: Nearly half of American workers don’t earn enough to afford a one-bedroom (cont)

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Anyone who didn't get a 20% raise this year lost money. As the fed pumped cash, the stock market gains kept the rich from feeling the inflation that is being handed to everybody else with a bow on it. For months everyone has naysayed the idea that money printing would have a negative effect, now just Google "inflation" news articles.

It appears that it was like that for a while… S&P 500 had 4 out of 5 last years with at least 15% annual returns (2018 had negative returns).

You clearly don't know what inflation is.
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