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Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Is the hate around Electron just due to bloat? TBH, I don't care if there's no security ramifications.

Electron does potentially have some security implications. Although, as others have pointed out, the 1Password development team likely has enough knowledge and manpower to keep up.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#193

Can we start talking in terms of "Environmental Impact"? Work out the energy use per hour of the old vs the new system * number of installs. See how much extra millions of tons of carbon 1password is spewing into the air because of their technology change! Reminder: when a company chooses a technology stack that suits them (the developers of the software) and NOT the end users, then things tend to go badly.

energy saved by rust backend to compensate for energy wasted by electron :D

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Like I commented the other day, they are losing me as a customer because of that - and because of "improving" the vault format so that it no longer syncs with iOS via iCloud. This is going to cause all sorts of grief when we are forced to upgrade the iOS app to align with 8 and lose the ability to sync via that. I wouldn't mind paying for a Family license if I didn't have to use their sync service - I just don't trus…

So what's the best alternative?

I have a list of alternatives here: https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/1password

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#196

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"people freak out cause the app uses slightly more energy" Multiply the "slightly" by 100 million installs!

Man, this is like when someone was arguing with me that Right on Reds is not that impactful to the environment, they said something like "Oh on average it only cuts off 30 seconds off of someone's commute." ...Ooookay, now times that by everyone commuting.

Most people do not work on apps that scale to that level.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#198

Bitwarden for shared environments, keepassxc for local. You're welcome.

Go check what Bitwarden clients use. You're welcome.

Oh no, I had only ever used their web interface. Thank you for the heads up. I personally refuse to install anything electron or nodejs on my systems, so I guess I won't be using the desktop bitwarden client anytime soon.

Are there any good bitwarden alternatives? (shared env pass managers)

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#199
post #144

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I'm not a Mac user these days, what OS features will it be missing now?

Drag and drop, touchID, AppleWatch unlock, I suppose native menubar (1password mini) access might be on the table... Maybe keyboard clearing (of OTPs).. Universal clipboard?

Touch ID, Apple Watch unlock, drag and drop, and universal clipboard support all still work on 1Password 8 (just tried it out).

It's almost like they have a native Rust backend that makes it possible for them to still use platform-specific features like that...

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#200
post #101

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This is based on what? Poorly written apps like Slack? I'm so surprised how people make blanket statements like this. I'll wait and see how performance is affected by the change before making such uninformed judgements

So Slack developed by a billion dollar company is poorly written and not fixed for years but 1Password somehow will escape all performance issues?

Yeah actually, they will. The reason why Slack had all of those issues was because they kept all of their business logic in JS, which led to increased memory consumption. With 1Password, the UI is just a thin layer on top of a Rust-based core, which keeps things fast and memory-light.

Also I checked Activity Monitor on macOS. 1Password 7 uses up 120 MB of RAM. The new 1Password uses up... 50MB.

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