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Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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tptacek wrote: post #750
risky_opinions wrote: post #668

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I'm White. I'm not racist. I agree with your opinions of wanting more black stories. The fact so many people are capitalizing black and lower casing White is such a deliberate act of divisiveness. Stop doing this. You're turning moderate people into enemies. Everything is being turned into race and division to the point it's making my Asian partner and a lot of her friends in the Asian community mad at the black comm…

You capitalize "Black" for the same reason you capitalize "Spanish" or "Polish". It's a distinctive ethnicity and culture; it isn't simply a broad description of people sharing a skin color. You can read John McWhorter --- no friend to wokeism --- talking about how much better capital-B Black is as a description than any of the other weird terms we've come up with in the last 20 years. Nobody anywhere on this thread…

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Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by tajustice2 »

tptacek wrote: post #750
risky_opinions wrote: post #668

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm White. I'm not racist. I agree with your opinions of wanting more black stories. The fact so many people are capitalizing black and lower casing White is such a deliberate act of divisiveness. Stop doing this. You're turning moderate people into enemies. Everything is being turned into race and division to the point it's making my Asian partner and a lot of her friends in the Asian community mad at the black comm…

You capitalize "Black" for the same reason you capitalize "Spanish" or "Polish". It's a distinctive ethnicity and culture; it isn't simply a broad description of people sharing a skin color. You can read John McWhorter --- no friend to wokeism --- talking about how much better capital-B Black is as a description than any of the other weird terms we've come up with in the last 20 years. Nobody anywhere on this thread…

If you flag this, it's because you're admitting it's an uncomfortable fact that goes against the narrative.

Definitely capitalize Black people for the same you capitalize White people: It's a distinctive ethnicity and culture in America; it isn't simply a broad description of people sharing a skin color.

White Americans and Black Americans are both distinct and unique ethnicities and cultures.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by HarryHirsch »

Veen wrote: post #425
HarryHirsch wrote: post #16

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It's more understandable when you think about the Irish Troubles. The Black-White issue is really an interethnic conflict.

"Neflix for Protestants" and "Netflix for Catholics" would be considered similarly unhelpful.

Both will be VC-financed and need to increase viewership. So Popeflix starts a series about the heroic exploits of a Provo brigade bombing British garrisons. Prodflix responds with a series about a crack Specials unit that hunts down the coward bombers mercilessly because the nationalism works.

In another timeline this has already happened. We merely have Governors Abbott and DeSantis and Delta Covid.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by ecmascript »

dang wrote: post #656
ecmascript wrote: post #594

How is this not racist? I find this to be supporting segregation and racist ideas in general. I don’t understand how this would lead towards a better society at all. I don’t understand how YC gave you funding. I am starting to really lose respect for YC. Seems like a toxic idea and honestly I hope you fail.

Whoa, criticizing YC is fine but "I hope you fail" is the sort of thing we ban accounts for. How nasty. Please stick to the site guidelines if you want to keep commenting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Is it really that nasty? Is there no idea that is horrible enough to warrant it?

By the way, how did I break the guidelines exactly? I understand that you guys simply are protecting your investments but come on.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by dang »

ecmascript wrote: post #894
dang wrote: post #656

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Whoa, criticizing YC is fine but "I hope you fail" is the sort of thing we ban accounts for. How nasty. Please stick to the site guidelines if you want to keep commenting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Is it really that nasty? Is there no idea that is horrible enough to warrant it? By the way, how did I break the guidelines exactly? I understand that you guys simply are protecting your investments but come on.

If "protecting investments" were the goal we would moderate these threads completely differently. Actually the bar is higher for me to intervene in a YC thread; and I'd have replied to you the same way (apart from mentioning YC) in a thread which had nothing to do with YC startups.

Your comment broke at least these site guidelines:

"Be kind."

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

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"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

"Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You also broke 3 of the 4 comment guidelines for Show HNs:

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

You also have a history of using HN for flamewar and for political battle. We've had to ask you more than once in the past to stop. We ban accounts that keep this up, so if you would please take the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd appreciate it.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by ecmascript »

dang wrote: post #895
ecmascript wrote: post #894

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really that nasty? Is there no idea that is horrible enough to warrant it? By the way, how did I break the guidelines exactly? I understand that you guys simply are protecting your investments but come on.

If "protecting investments" were the goal we would moderate these threads completely differently. Actually the bar is higher for me to intervene in a YC thread; and I'd have replied to you the same way (apart from mentioning YC) in a thread which had nothing to do with YC startups. Your comment broke at least these site guidelines: " Be kind ." " Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work…

Alright I get it and I am sorry, I will try to do better in the future.

But for my curiosity, does the rules not apply for the posters as well? Is it ok to post stuff that is inherently racist or promotes segregation?

For example, if someone would have made a dating site for nazis would that be ok on HN as a post and when the obvious comments are coming, I guess those would get warned and removed?

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by throwaway2037 »

neartheplain wrote: post #546
throwaway2037 wrote: post #72

Can any French, Belgians, or Dutchies with significant Black African sub-culture comment? I am curious: If there was a French-language or Flemish-/Dutch-language "Netflix for black people" in your country, what would be the reaction?

In America, I'd expect "Black African sub-culture" to mean the culture of recently-arrived immigrants from Africa. That's a very different thing from black American culture, which evolved under an entirely different set of conditions over the last few centuries. Significant differences exist between native-born black Americans and recent African immigrants in terms of median income, educational attainment, family str…

Are you aware there is a significant cultural divide between African Americans (many generations) and one or two-generation immigrants from the Carribean of Black African origin? When I lived in New York City, I was surprised to learn about this significant cultural divide. Most Black Carribean people who immigrated to the United States are much high class and education than African Americans.

There is also a significant divide between Brazillians that immigrate to the United States. If you are five generations removed from Germany, but born in Brazil (essentially 100% Caucasian / white), there is a huge social gap with mixed and Black African origin Brazillians. I was also surprised by that in New York City.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Post by senojretep356 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #882
dang wrote: post #875

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I'm late to this, but could you please stop being an asshole on HN? Your comments in this thread have at best straddled the line, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28076349 crossed it completely, and unfortunately your comment history is often that of a jerk: your posts frequently contain something abrasive, even as you also make interesting points. Your interesting points are worth reading, but the meanness is de…

My apologies dang. Within the LA startup and entertainment communities, we are less politic in our critiques; LA's funding system is quite different from SV's, and harsh truths are more valued here than polite nothings. A thick skin is required to survive in the film industry. (It is an aphorism here that a true friend is someone who will tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.) My intention was no…

Whenever I see these kind of take downs on HN I always get reminded of the Coinbase and Dropbox take downs and countless others of eventual very successful companies. I actually think the poster makes some interesting points - if they could be framed as more of a question it might have been more helpful. I for one will be be signing up at some point - I circle through the various sites subscribing and unsubscribing regularly - disney, netflix, discovery, paramount, hulu, prime etc so this will get added to the list.

My key question is how are you going to bulk out the offering - I think there is value in a smaller set of curated content but to keep my subscription I'll need to be able to get several months of content?

Could you not just focus on originals and licence some old classics as well?

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