How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
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Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#2> vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.
Which seems in line with I had speculated about earlier[1].
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#3> vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise. Which seems in line with I had speculated about earlier[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28003932
It looks like viral load diminishes faster which is a plus. However, I’d be willing to bet that almost all transmission happens when people are at their peak viral load. And so if peak viral loads are not differing between vaccinated and unvaccinated I’d guess we’re pretty much going to see unabated transmission amongst vaccinated.
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#4Vaccine passports are dumb for this reason. Somebody choosing to be at higher risk does not increase the risk to other other than clogging up hospital resources
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#5> vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise. Which seems in line with I had speculated about earlier[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28003932
It looks like viral load diminishes faster which is a plus. However, I’d be willing to bet that almost all transmission happens when people are at their peak viral load. And so if peak viral loads are not differing between vaccinated and unvaccinated I’d guess we’re pretty much going to see unabated transmission amongst vaccinated.
I don’t have data or evidence to back this up, but my hunch is that vaccinated people are less likely to take precautions and more likely engage in the “riskiest” (for others) behaviors like attending packed indoor gatherings. That’s why I think it’s so important this message gets out, and even then only a percentage of people will care.
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#6Are there any numbers for long covid amongst breakthrough Delta infections?
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#7In vaccinated people who become infected.
Since the vaccines cause fewer people to be infected, the unconditional viral load is lower.
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#8At least we can protect ourselves now, N95s are available, vaccines are available, this is very different than a year ago.
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#9In vaccinated people who become infected . Since the vaccines cause fewer people to be infected, the unconditional viral load is lower.
Wait, I thought the general consensus is that the current vaccines reduce the severity of the infection but provide little defense against contacting and spreading it? At least, this has been used to explain why infection rates are still increasing even among vaccinated populations.
Re: How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
#10In vaccinated people who become infected . Since the vaccines cause fewer people to be infected, the unconditional viral load is lower.
Wait, I thought the general consensus is that the current vaccines reduce the severity of the infection but provide little defense against contacting and spreading it? At least, this has been used to explain why infection rates are still increasing even among vaccinated populations.
They're certainly less effective vs variants, but I haven't seen any convincing data suggesting that vaccines are totally ineffective against them.
In fact, the article also quotes one of the authors as saying:
"The bottom line is, this can happen — it can be true that vaccinated people can spread the virus. But we do not yet know what their relative role in overall community spread is."