Symfony 2.0 is now available • Hacker News Board

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by eitland » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 10:53 AM UTC

celalo wrote: post #8

For those wants to know more about Symfony, I can assure you Symfony and Yii are at different leagues. Symfony is so much more featured than any PHP framework out there. Yml based settings and modeling plus the Admin Generator is one of a kind. I believe it is even better than Django and Rails, when it comes to flexibility and extensibility.

I also have some experience with symfony, at least 1.0. If you are one of those who thinks rails seems nice, but the job demands php/you prefer php, symfony is a good choice.

symfony was the project that made me realize that php doesn't need to be ugly.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by skrebbel » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 10:57 AM UTC

siphr wrote: post #6

mrspeaker wrote: post #4

I'd never heard of Symfony before. Can someone point to some tech details about the framework? The site does a lot of explaining what a framework is, and some general philosophies - but not what this particular framework is.

Same here. No Idea where this came from. To be honest the effort put into this could've just contributed to an existing open source framework for improvement.

You sound like a PHP coder telling DHH to stop doing Rails 3 and get working on some existing open source framework instead.

I know that HN is somewhat ignorant of the PHP community due to the large set of idiots there and the so not cool factor, but you're taking this to the extreme. Symfony is probably one of the most decent and most widely used pieces of open source PHP out there.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by andypants » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 10:59 AM UTC

celalo wrote: post #8

For those wants to know more about Symfony, I can assure you Symfony and Yii are at different leagues. Symfony is so much more featured than any PHP framework out there. Yml based settings and modeling plus the Admin Generator is one of a kind. I believe it is even better than Django and Rails, when it comes to flexibility and extensibility.

How is 'yml based settings' one of a kind, or a deal-breaker when choosing frameworks?

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by andypants » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:02 AM UTC

AlexMuir wrote: post #5

I highly recommend Yii ( http://www.yiiframework.com/ ) for people looking for a PHP framework. I've never used Symfony so can't compare the two, but Yii has done everything I've asked of it.

I highly recommend Python for people looking into web development. I've never used PHP so can't compare the two, but Python has done everything I've asked of it.

(end joke)

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by skrebbel » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:08 AM UTC

> Everything is a Bundle in Symfony2: A bundle is a directory containing a set of files (PHP files, stylesheets, JavaScripts, images, ...) that implement a single feature (a blog, a forum, etc). That changes everything. Share your bundles between your projects or publish them in the wild.

I have no idea whether this is novel, but it is to me, and I really like it.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by mweibel » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:21 AM UTC

bergie wrote: post #3

I'm currently in process of building compatibility layers from our two old PHP frameworks (MidCOM and Midgard MVC) to Symfony, and have been very pleasantly surprised with both the code quality and the responsiveness of the community. As part of this work I will also write new Symfony2 bundles for whatever functiolity our old frameworks had a SF2 misses. The first one is the ability to run Symfony2 apps under AppServ…

Since PHP 5.4 there's a web server built-in: http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.webserver.php

Maybe you could rely on that, instead of aip :)

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by thesorrow » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:26 AM UTC

In the meantime Zend Framework folks are designing Zend Framework 2.0 for PHP 5.4. U mad symfony ? :)

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by retro212 » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:26 AM UTC

If you need a lightweight - Sinatra like framework check http://silex-project.org/ it is built from Symfony components and works like a charm

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by ZoFreX » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:26 AM UTC

bergie wrote: post #7

siphr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. No Idea where this came from. To be honest the effort put into this could've just contributed to an existing open source framework for improvement.

The blog post gives some background. Popularity: Another way to understand the level of the community commitment is to compare it with other projects. Symfony2 is currently the most popular PHP project on Github (most forked and most watched overall) and the 12th most forked project for the whole Github platform. That's just astonishing! Standards compliance: Symfony2 embraces standards: First, Symfony2 is willingly…

Bear in mind that ESI with Varnish is a tricky one! But it is very, very exciting to see a framework embracing it nonetheless.

Re: Symfony 2.0 is now available

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Post by ZoFreX » Thu, Jul 28, 2011, 11:28 AM UTC

Very, very excited about this and have been for some time, congratulations to the team on the release! For those that don't know it, Symfony is a very impressive framework that puts a lot more into "Doing Things Right" than most other PHP frameworks, and some of their components (such as Assetic) are amazing contributions to the PHP ecosystem in their own right.