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Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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This is a better graph including the past 5 years: https://cdn.dqydj.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/inflation-m... Source: https://dqydj.com/individual-income-by-year/

That is much better and it shows that median household incomes hadn’t grown much until recently (as the tight labor market and years of boom have pushed up wages). I still think it’s crazy our minimum wage is so low ($7.50/hr today vs $11/hour in late 1960s in today’s money). IMHO, it should be pinned to productivity growth since the 1960s (the question is: should we have higher or lower inequality than in the 1960s?…

Isn't the fact of rapidly climbing, market-driven compensation for typically-minimum-wage jobs such as food service, hospitality and labour sufficient to dispense with minimum wages all together? Yes perhaps the market takes X years to adjust, but it does in fact adjust. Why not just wait the years and save all the bureaucracy.

> they can just hire cheap workers and fire them as needed

But doesn't increasing the minimum wage just price these people who were formerly being hired/fired completely out of the labour market?

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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These are somewhat dangerous as the additional airspace allows CO2 to build up. I haven't seen good studies either way, but there's lots of anecdata out there of people reporting symptoms.

Is this really dangerous? We are naturally armed against CO2 and there will be a lot of warning signs (headache, short breath, ...) before anything happens.

Anything that compromises respiration while in the water is very concerning to me and I wouldn't use them, though it seems to be resolved in newer models. I prefer a basic but high quality J snorkel with a comfortable mouthpiece but I understand why these types of masks are appealing too.

Your thought that we're naturally armed against CO2 build up is generally true, but what we aren't armed against is a lack of O2 in the presence of a lack of CO2. Our urge to breathe occurs not because we're losing O2, but because we have too much CO2 in our bodies. I think this is critical to understand in the context of snorkelling.

If you're in a room and CO2 is gradually built up, you will likely experience symptoms of the build up occurring in your body, absolutely. When it's more acute though, you often don't experience symptoms in a time frame in which you'll be able to respond properly. In the case with this mask that's probably not a concern at all.

Another concern, far more applicable here, is hypoxia. This kills snorkellers and divers frequently. Typically they deplete CO2 levels in their body via over-exertion and/or hyperventilation (intentionally or not) then go under water for some period waiting for their warning signals to return to the surface to breathe. Unfortunately the signals never occur because CO2 levels haven't reached a level which causes their nervous system to respond by causing an urge to breathe. Instead, oxygen is depleted causing a blackout to occur either under water or near the surface. The person isn't able to protect themselves while unconscious, so they often drown.

I wanted to point this out because in the context of water sports, more people need to be aware of this. Your body won't always let you know you're in danger. It's often why people experience it and/or die from it - they simply didn't know. We expect our bodies to tell us when we need to breathe. This is because our bodies are typically in conditions which allow for this to happen and we're very accustomed to that - we take it for granted. Once you skew the O2 and CO2 levels in your body, things don't occur as you'd expect at all. Much like any other situation where homeostasis is compromised.

Hopefully I'm not coming across as lecturing or anything. I'm genuinely intending to be helpful.

Some key tips when in the water, regardless of what mask you use:

- Breathe normally, don't hyperventilate

- Only dive if your breathing is at a normal rate and you feel relaxed

- Say you dive down for 30 seconds - spend at least 1 minute (2x your dive time) recovering oxygen, preferably 3x

- Always, always try to go with other people - accidents happen, and you'll need each other

- If it's your first time spending time under water, gradually build up your time under there. Feel out your comfort zone before testing yourself.

- Spit out your snorkel when you go under water. If something goes wrong, it becomes an easy entry point for water to get to your lungs.

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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I often ask people: “if you could be 20-years old in 1991 or 2021, which would you pick?” An incredible number of people pick ‘91. Some people even ask to go back to the seventies. This article explains why I would much rather be young now rather than before.

I’d pick 20 in 1991 just to be there for the original rave scene!

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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I had a moment like this recently with, of all things, a snorkeling mask. It was one of those full face masks with a big snorkel sticking out the top like a unicorn's horn that popped on the market a few years ago. It is a marvel. It took all the downsides of the old masks and ingeniously fixed them. Full mouth and nose breathing so you can breathe naturally and comfortably, an airflow pattern that pulls dry air over…

Be careful with those. Diver's Alert Network states that full face snorkeling masks can cause dangerous hypercapnia unless they have tight seals and working one-way valves. https://blog.daneurope.org/en_US/blog/are-full-face-snorkeli...

Thanks, yes my mask is properly designed with the one way valve system and small sealed breathing pocket around the mouth. I definitely appreciate that this product has a complex design to ensure safety and that a knock-off could be dangerous.

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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( "Not Rewinding VHS tapes before returning to the library or Blockbuster" ... how about going to some video store was kinda cool and added some social aspect to sitting on your couch alone and watching a movie? how can you even add crap like that on such a list with such a title and not realize how delusional this is?) there are no material life improvements - only more efficient dopamine triggers. but that's not an…

>there are no material life improvements

I don't know about you, but having cheap access to climate control and refrigeration is a pretty big deal. Even animals appreciate a warm place to sleep and fresh food.

Your reasoning seems ascetic. If a fellow says he's happier with the mega-titties than the ankles, who are you to tell him otherwise? Every human experience can be categorized into a dopamine or cortisol trigger. Who vested the authority in you to decide which of them constitute "meaningful spiritual fullfilment" and which do not?

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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The upside I think of is that this enables more specialization and "division of labor", which is one of the basic drivers of prosperity.

True, but a downside is that there may be a correlation between specialization/division of labor and depression/ennui. I don't have any data handy, but I think we often feel greater satisfaction working through all of the aspects to creating something versus being a "cog in the machine" and specializing in one role. E.g. I'd rather build a boat - have a hand in the design, source the materials, and actually physicall…

Your boat comparision is nonsensical.

To build a boat on your own the way you described is crazy resource intensive. You need land to store the boat, you need materials, you need tools, you need free time to work on it. This is basically a wealthy persons pet project. Depending on the size of the boat and your abilities you will be pumping a crazy amount of resources into this for years.

The second type is a job. You need a car to get to the factory, and an able body. Within a week to a month you would be expecting your first paycheck.

You are basically asking if a wealthy person can feel higher amount of satisfaction than a worker class. It’s cliche that money doesn’t bring happyness, but if you are investing that much resources into a project it better be making you happy or what are you doing with your life?

The other problem with the comparision is that people who have a boat project are a self-selected bunch for those who would enjoy building a boat. If i would have the resources to build a boat I wouldn’t. It is a risky, hard, and back breaking work. The reward at the end is that you have a boat, which I don’t want. If you give me resources and force me to build my own boat I will be misserable.

Is it a surprise then that this wealthy self-selected bunch has a higher statisfaction with their pet project than a factory worker? How could this ever be a fair comparision?

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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I often ask people: “if you could be 20-years old in 1991 or 2021, which would you pick?” An incredible number of people pick ‘91. Some people even ask to go back to the seventies. This article explains why I would much rather be young now rather than before.

I'll take 91. I get to experience all the exciting personal computing technology again before it all becomes web appliances and dark patterns. Back when the internet, if you could get it, was a place of wonder instead of terror.

If 1991 why not 1919? You'd want the world transition from the horse age to the space age. It might be a good while yet beforw we see any new changes as profound as that one.

Okay I guess I'd rank crispr as highly. But the list of changes that profound is short.

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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I'll take 91. I get to experience all the exciting personal computing technology again before it all becomes web appliances and dark patterns. Back when the internet, if you could get it, was a place of wonder instead of terror.

If 1991 why not 1919? You'd want the world transition from the horse age to the space age. It might be a good while yet beforw we see any new changes as profound as that one. Okay I guess I'd rank crispr as highly. But the list of changes that profound is short.

1991 still feels modern enough to have a decent chance at participating in that transition I suppose.

Re: Life Improvements Since the 1990s

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Sorry to be that guy, but there have been anti improvements as well. All this came with a financial cost, things seem much more expensive than back then. Society as a whole is much more sedatery and physically lazy and this is reflected in overweight numbers, contributing factor to increased health care cost. And ever since corona struck, life quality rapidly decreased for those who like to get out and do things.
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