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Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

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Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#91

A tweet showing the actual difference as screenshot: https://twitter.com/Tempo_Storm/status/1425549066377777156 Appears to be a standard-res Windows rendering. (Obviously a Retina Mac/iOS rendering will be totally different.)

Personally i wouldn't be able to tell they re different without a hint

Not sure what the fuss is about

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#95

Every UI change forces a cost on your users. It forces them to relearn the language of what your buttons mean (the Follow button semantics here are atrocious now, and give almost no affordances to users about what is going on). Changes to UI reduce familiarity, and if they are fond of your product, that is usually a really bad thing. Having a good friend change personality is disturbing and unpleasant! What is gained…

I feel like Basecamp is the only company that gets this right. Want to radically redo your UI? Ship a new version and let your existing users continue to use the old version.

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#96
post #66

The new font is also destroying Arabic and Farsi text. Does Twitter not have a single Farsi or Arabic speaking employee? This is an indication that they really don't value diverse employees there. Can't believe no one was like "hey this is destroying readability of these two major languages."

The new font doesn't even have Arabic characters in my browser. It just gets rendered in Segoe UI. Which is fine, for what it's worth.

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#97
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's bad on Mac, it's bad on Windows. What the hell did they use to develop and test this where it looked good?

looks fine to me on linux, surprisingly. though i doubt that the designers tested on a linux box with a tweaked fontconfig edit: here's a comparison with helvetica https://i.imgur.com/BJlHQhf.gif

CSS is seeing this stack on FF for me: "TwitterChirp", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif

I'm getting Roboto on Linux which (a) looks great and (b) is very similar to the new font

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#98
post #85

If you don't like the new font or Follow/Following buttons, my browser extension/user script for Twitter can now get rid of them, screenshots in the release notes here (the latest Chrome version is still pending review at the time of typing): https://github.com/insin/tweak-new-twitter/releases I tried turning Chirp back on after a full day of coding at work and it's even worse when your eyes are starting to get tired…

Yeah the follow buttons confused me for quite a while. I thought I was following a bunch of folks at first glance. Then I realized they've flipped the sense of outlined/solid buttons!

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#99

Not every thing on the Internet needs its own font. (I say as the former head of a type foundry.)

I'm sure you know this, but for others: This is a cost-saving move. It's always more economical for a company of Twitter's size to develop their own font because 1) Then they don't have to pay per-use licensing fees, which are huge at the billion user scale, and 2) a peculiarity of copyright law means that the actual shapes of the letters aren't actually protectable by copyright -- you can copy an existing font virtu…

> a peculiarity of copyright law means that the actual shapes of the letters aren't actually protectable by copyright

Warning: offer not applicable in UK and most countries in EEA. They have the concept of protecting designs there. Japan excludes most designs of fonts because of its utilitarian use BUT if the font (technically typeface) is distinctive and used in a way that can be defended as an artistic choice, it's protected under copyright.

Re: Twitter's new font, Chirp, is apparently giving some users headaches

#100
post #91

A tweet showing the actual difference as screenshot: https://twitter.com/Tempo_Storm/status/1425549066377777156 Appears to be a standard-res Windows rendering. (Obviously a Retina Mac/iOS rendering will be totally different.)

Personally i wouldn't be able to tell they re different without a hint Not sure what the fuss is about

Some fonts are only subtly different, but this doesn't strike me as one of them. Those lower case gs are about as different as the letter g can look.
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