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Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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What in the world does this have to do with Bolshevism?

Bolshevism is the belief that the system must be destroyed by an onslaught of random chaos before the glorious revolution will be possible.

Bolshevism has nothing to do with "an onslaught of random chaos". Maybe you have it confused with a crude understanding of Nihilism.

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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We don't have data to say that it's not working.

It's still happening... is that data?

Not really. Rates exist between 0% and 100%.

How many deterred murderers do you think need to exist for it to be worth prosecuting and harshly punishing murder?

Though even after knowing your answer to that question... I'm not eager to live in your experiment's "murder is fine" group...

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in the world does this have to do with Bolshevism?

Bolshevism is the belief that the system must be destroyed by an onslaught of random chaos before the glorious revolution will be possible.

No, it's not. You've conflated a rigid hierarchical party system with discordianism or accelerationism.

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Does anyone know more about the mental state that inspires people to commit arson? Drug dealing or murder often have selfish or monetary gains; but what is gained from burning the wildlands? Is it a power thing? Calling all armchair psychologists

Somewhat. It really kind of depends. It can be that. It can be a visceral thrill at the intellectual understanding of what one is setting in motion. (A fire can be considered an early manifestation of network effect. You invite the coordinated release of energy in proximate fuel sources). It can be a symbolic thing (catharsis through slipping out of the bonds of civilizational control and unleashing the most primal manifestations of the oppressor on themselves). It can be an act of creative destruction, (a time to build, a time to destroy; ashes to ashes). It can just be liberating in the sense the ensuing chaos causes an incontrovertible shift in the world around them in pretty much any sphere you can imagine. It can be joy of equality found at last. All are made equal in the face of Natural forces. For some it's about finding resonance between a state of internal emotional turmoil and external circumstance. (I want to burn until there is nothing left to burn about.) Or think of how one in pain may injure themselves or inflict an acute pain on themselves to distract them from an unceasing pain. I have a feeling that for many, it's as simple as "it felt like the thing to do at the time".

Interestingly enough, arson was one of the original capital offenses in many traditions of justice systems as the building techniques of primitive cultures are often not terribly resilient in the face of malicious fire starting.

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Granted I live on the west coast and fires have been very much on my mind in the past few years, but I do wholeheartedly support the most draconian punishments for arsonists who start wild fires. It’s going to have to be a part of our climate changed future to deter criminals.

Do you also support draconian punishments for people and organizations who blocked controlled burns and other wildfire control measures?

Whataboutism special on aisle 4.

EDIT: I also feel like you're (believe it or not) politicizing this as conservatives and libertarians in favor of controlled burns and arson (yes, that is exactly what you sound like), and hippie dippie out of touch leftist urbanites being the real root cause of all this because of their supposed intolerance of controlled burns.

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Looks like the perpetrator made an entry on Google Maps attempting to make a PAC[0]: Dr. Gary Maynard For President 2020 Exectutive Committee and PAC "My First and NOT the last Run for the Presidency of the United States of America - this is my PAC and you can donate to my cause once you have seen who I am and why I am running! I am Dr. Gary Maynard - Social Scientist and Nearly Unmatched Understander of ALL Human be…

> They have names, addresses, This is a phrase I have seen numerous times before on the internet, always in contexts which make clear this is a call to violence.

I don't know who flagged you for saying you've seen that phrase only in worrying contexts before, but your comment seems reasonable enough to me. Maybe they misread what "this" refers to?

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Looks like the perpetrator made an entry on Google Maps attempting to make a PAC[0]: Dr. Gary Maynard For President 2020 Exectutive Committee and PAC "My First and NOT the last Run for the Presidency of the United States of America - this is my PAC and you can donate to my cause once you have seen who I am and why I am running! I am Dr. Gary Maynard - Social Scientist and Nearly Unmatched Understander of ALL Human be…

> They have names, addresses, This is a phrase I have seen numerous times before on the internet, always in contexts which make clear this is a call to violence.

Or simply to be used as sites for non-violent demonstration?

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of this was done out of greed and political corruption so that developers could build more unaffordable housing for the wealthy - I would say the gp has some merit in their comment.

I have never seen that claim before. My understanding is that lack of wild and controlled burns can be attributed to two factors: 1) Emotion driven environmentalism trumping environmental scientists 2) Political deferral due to the risk of blowback from out of control burns.

The corrupt developers don't like to publicize their corruption. I happen to know this because I know some of the players (and was even offered opportunities to invest in land before the decision to build a new highway was made public).

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Fun fact: the alleged perp a progressive democrat politically. By his own words, he may have lit the fires because he's upset that Trump didn't "mea culpa" being a jerk and evil!

Quoting the alleged arsonist himself:

“Donald Trump’s lack of or unwillingness to self-reflect in order to self-improve, and his lack of empathy while being threatened with his first major, public, political and personal defeat, might activate a sense of the need for the use of violence, violent protests by his supporters or outright sabotage of the nation by locking down the economy or some other major act to damage the nation before he is forced to leave office, if he loses,”

TDS to the max and not remotely rational at all. Free rent in his brain to this day,

Re: Former college professor accused of serial arson is denied bail in California

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Curious how and why they were tracking this guy initially. It seems like this would be the most difficult crime to prove. Not against throwing the book at him if there is substantial proof.

Apparently in the last fire, just before he was caught, he got his car struck. His behavior attracted attention of a hiker. He was observed and filmed by this concerned citizen who contacted authorities. That filming including getting his picture plus the license plate on his car. That cinched enough to know his identity and suspicion.

Once he became a suspect to the level, a court order to get phone records would be easy.

The moment your phone is on, it is constantly keeping a full data handshake and connection to any base station nearby and to phone company switching computers. You are constantly "under surveillance" in a geographic sense if you have a cell phone turned on (with or without a valid SIM card - the phones serial number gets logged even if an account isn't validated). Having it this way is the only way an in-coming call could ever be routed to you!

Remember phone switches are all Unix based and they have log files constantly filling just like any desktop system. Literally just "grep" the files. The most amusing experience related to this I ever had was being able to talk to my uncle who was blue-collar AT&T technician. But he knew his Unix.

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