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Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#121

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

This kind of corporate "we need to be seen to be doing something rather than nothing" stuff does wind me up, it just makes people more annoyed (by breaking scripts and causing unnecessary UI changes etc) and less receptive to actual arguments for social change while at the same time producing no practical increase in social justice. It's just inauthentic tokenism designed to keep the baying beast that is Twitter away.

"Show, don't tell" is as good advice for PR as it is for storytelling in my opinion. I don't want you to tell me how great you are at tackling the issues of the day with token changes like this, I want you to show me by actually doing things that demonstrate you believe in the stuff that's coming out of your mouth rather than just trying to appear like a "good person". Changing "master" to "main" or "primary" is as authentic as Facebook or Google saying they care about privacy.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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post #111

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It is amusing we glorify words like Pirate and Ninja. Yet other words become vilified so we ban them.

Which in this case is doubly ironic, because pirates and buccaneers were exactly the group that had kept the slave trade alive even after it was officially banned in many places, if my limited knowledge on the Atlantic slave trade is correct.

I recall instances where they fought slavery by capturing slave trading ships, freeing the enslaved, and given them freedom and the opportunity to join them and fight the assholes that captured them in the first place. The history of Nassau is pretty interesting.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#124

> PDF.js viewer now included in Thunderbird Doesn't this unnecessarily increase the attack surface?

Of this 1 individual application, yes. But it's a tradeoff against the user's attack surface of using multiple apps.

PDF.js is run in a secure sandbox so has no direct filesystem/OS access, and is very actively maintained (e.g. for Firefox), so it's not unreasonable that it may leave you much less exposed than launching an external app would.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#125

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

It doesn't. I wish they would have called it Super Password, which I just thought up and makes more sense while hopefully not offending anyone.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#127
post #90

Huh? No Linux version available?

Why are you saying that? There's a Linux version. Although I'ld expect a Linux user to be using their package manager instead anyway. But maybe Thunderbird should eventually release a Flatpak or Snap or AppImage which are cross-distro.

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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post #64
post #30

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I've literally never heard of a slave password.

"master" is a "blocklisted" word now. I also think it's silly to change the word on places which doesn't have "slave"s (e.g. github master branch > main branch switch), but well..

Got me curious about whitelist and the opposite.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#129

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

Root could have fit nice I suppose. It's also climate change ready.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#130

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

Master/Slave nomenclature is considered "problematic language" (because it harks back to slavery), and thus often replaced with more PC language these days. My organization had a whole "fix this nomenclature throughout the whole codebase" week (things like "black-/whitelist, master/slave, ....)

Your organization is obviously retarded. Tell you HR people to stop telling IT people how to do their jobs.
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