> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?
More importantly, why can't Thunderbird and Firefox just integrate with GNOME Keyring / KDE Wallet to retrieve the m...primary password without prompting the user on startup?
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think language matters, and de-normalizing language with a root in slavery is a good idea.
Also, on that note some Slavic countries might request their naming and history be changed to something delinked from slavery... Shall we rename Slovenia and Slovakia, too?
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Master/Slave nomenclature is considered "problematic language" (because it harks back to slavery), and thus often replaced with more PC language these days. My organization had a whole "fix this nomenclature throughout the whole codebase" week (things like "black-/whitelist, master/slave, ....)
'Master' is not counterpart to 'slave', it is counterpart to 'inferior'. 'Master' is "greater" (ex ' magis '), vs "lesser". The most resounding example is fitting: «Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas». It is an ___extreme___ problem if somebody now thought [I change the tense out of refusal] that the term 'master' should not be used, especially if the perverse excuse were that someone used it in a way that makes s…
Re: Thunderbird 91.0
#75I’ve given up on desktop e-mail clients. IMHO there’s currently no UI on the market that beats the Gmail UI.
Edit: after I wrote the above line, I realized that many people use closed source software... Well ok then.
Re: Thunderbird 91.0
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
More importantly, why can't Thunderbird and Firefox just integrate with GNOME Keyring / KDE Wallet to retrieve the m...primary password without prompting the user on startup?
Because not everybody is using GNOME or KDE.
Re: Thunderbird 91.0
#77> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?
The word master has to be removed or avoided in all software.
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#79> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?
Master/Slave nomenclature is considered "problematic language" (because it harks back to slavery), and thus often replaced with more PC language these days. My organization had a whole "fix this nomenclature throughout the whole codebase" week (things like "black-/whitelist, master/slave, ....)
blacklist predates black people being enslaved in America.
It's PC war on words that distorted their original meaning.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've literally never heard of a slave password.
"master" is a "blocklisted" word now. I also think it's silly to change the word on places which doesn't have "slave"s (e.g. github master branch > main branch switch), but well..
It does make one wonder, if there was more diversity in CS when these things were being made whether "master-slave" analogies would have made it in or whether other analogies like "parent-child", "major-minor", "leader-follower" or similar would have made it in.
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