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Is it the phone or only iCloud that scans for CSAM?
But is the real-world instance of CSAM so high that every photo on every phone that is shared with another human needs to be scanned for it? It seems like there is no tradeoff too big to not be taken in the quest to eradicate CSAM.
Are the resources spent really proportional to the threat?
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Scanning all your photos in the cloud easily extends to checking all sorts of other things as well.
It does. However people have a greater expectation of privacy on a device they own than on a cloud-based solution where they have voluntarily uploaded content.
Your phone and photos app ask for this and you have to accept it before it is enabled. Sounds voluntarily to me.
I would be classified as a pedo if my pictures were on iCloud... even if some of the naked kid is me... I also have pictures of my kids playing in the bath.
No? The scanner only checks for matches against images in NCMEC's database, so you can take as many pictures of your kids as you want, it won't trip the scanner.
I would be classified as a pedo if my pictures were on iCloud... even if some of the naked kid is me... I also have pictures of my kids playing in the bath.
Fortunately that’s not how it works. You would have to have a whole collection of known and identified CSAM to be classified as anything at all with the system Apple has announced.
You want an end to end encrypted cloud provider like ProtonDrive or Sync.com. You can also consider using rclone or Cryptomator to encrypt data before adding it to a consumer cloud sync solution. All come with the usual caveats (do you really trust Sync.com to withstand a state actor?) and user experience compromises.
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Fortunately that’s not how it works. You would have to have a whole collection of known and identified CSAM to be classified as anything at all with the system Apple has announced.
No, their AI accepts some deviation. And we don't know how many false positives it takes to start a human review. And for privacy of course different people will evaluate different photos. And a human without context will flag a picture of a kid on the bath as child pornography. It is a very real possibility OP is made a suspect because of this.
Other companies have CSAM scanning and reporting with much fewer safeguards and the “my kid in the bathtub” scenario hasn’t seemed to actually be a problem.
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Mega and Stingle are the only options I'm aware of that are "truly" private, and every other major cloud storage provider will scan your files for CSAM. The best way forward for truly privacy conscious people would be to roll their own NextCloud instance, because any public service that allows you to store E2EE images will get hunted by the Government for allowing CSAM if they reach any significant userbase. Case in…
Dumb question but would an S3 bucket be scanned by CSAM? Ehh idk seems like a dumb concern/losing battle. My thing is about IP. I picked up this e-ink tablet and it syncs to their cloud service for example. Which you can stop but still... Ahh. Just feels like going in circles, ISP knows your content, VPN, is your device actually secure, etc... Do you have anything to hide anyway. I'm probably just paranoid ha I quest…
You can use that to identify files.