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Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by shakna »

anticodon wrote: post #43

I like Thunderbird, but several months ago a strange bug happened that caused one sent message to overwrite another sent message (IMAP account). I've noticed only because I needed to resend contents of both messages, and I was really surprised to find that Thunderbird overwrote contents of one message with another (Subject of the overwritten message was intact). It was a one time bug and it might be caused by my IMAP…

IMAP emails are all addressed by a 32bit UID. Overwriting it would require that you experienced a hash collision, data race, or that your IMAP provider sent out the wrong set of IDs.

It's incredibly unlikely to be Thunderbird's fault.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by vhanda »

ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #17

I've used Thunderbird for many years, but recently switched to KMail because that has proper search functionality. In KMail, I can instantly search for a keyword in all my emails from the last one and a half decade, whereas this takes several minutes in Thunderbird, and during the search the UI is unusable because the result list is incrementally populated which makes it impossible to actually click on results reliab…

This is interesting to hear.

When I was implementing it in KMail, I was looking at Thunderbird, and envious of their fancy search UI. I had plans of implementing something similar, but it never panned out.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by Aachen »

GlitchMr wrote: post #10
Tomte wrote: post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

Updates are delayed to give add-on developers time to update their add-ons to be compatible with Thunderbird 91 if changes are necessary.

Was there a separate release for 78 to fix the iirc four potential code execution vulnerabilities? (On a phone atm so I haven't checked myself, but since people are saying no update available for their 78, it sounds like no?!)

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by seqizz »

g105b wrote: post #30
unlikelymordant wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this is moving away from master/slave terminology similar to e.g. https://www.vice.com/en/article/8x7akv/masterslave-terminolo...

I've literally never heard of a slave password.

"master" is a "blocklisted" word now. I also think it's silly to change the word on places which doesn't have "slave"s (e.g. github master branch > main branch switch), but well..

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by drclau »

Tomte wrote: post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

Starting from some version (can’t recall exactly which, maybe 79 or 80), you had to do a fresh install. After that, it continues updating as usual.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by agilob »

Tomte wrote: post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

For years Thunderbird has been poorly maintained and releases were skipped. This release is to align Thunderbird version with Firefox version... but I don't know why.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by OtomotO »

garmaine wrote: post #52
OtomotO wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but then again the "master key" once probably was the key to the barn where the slaves were held or the one to the "master bedroom" or such.

“Master key” goes back to 1577, which predates English involvement in the African slave trade.

in my mothertongue a lot of words were misused during the course of time.

they had no bad connotation when they were introduced, but then they were used by "bad people" (by current standards) and now they are "dead" or rather "not to be used"

I guess it's the same in English :)

But times change

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

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Post by mdp2021 »

kettleballroll wrote: post #27
dotancohen wrote: post #26

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

Master/Slave nomenclature is considered "problematic language" (because it harks back to slavery), and thus often replaced with more PC language these days. My organization had a whole "fix this nomenclature throughout the whole codebase" week (things like "black-/whitelist, master/slave, ....)

'Master' is not counterpart to 'slave', it is counterpart to 'inferior'. 'Master' is "greater" (ex 'magis'), vs "lesser". The most resounding example is fitting: «Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas».

It is an ___extreme___ problem if somebody now thought [I change the tense out of refusal] that the term 'master' should not be used, especially if the perverse excuse were that someone used it in a way that makes somebody uncomfortable.

Following an old proverb, reportedly from or nobilitated by Cervantes, you are invited "not to mention the rope in the house of the hanged". But never in history, to the best of my knowledge, someone ever advanced the idea that given that people had been hanged, the term 'rope' should stop being used at all.

The term 'master' is innocent. And it has close to fullest right to be part of the language.

And there is a further matter of care given these desperate times in history: suspicion that a war against the semantic of "master" could be involved, given the many raising voices making all individuals equivalent in intellect, preparation and judgement, in the area of Asimov's warning:

«The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"»

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