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For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by busterarm »

adrianN wrote: post #5
jimbob45 wrote: post #3

I don’t think this is going to last forever but I am trying to take advantage of this remote Pax Romana as long as possible by cramming my big life events in now while my stress and job time commitments are low. I’m certain that either wages will be depressed for remote workers, the jobs will be sent offshore, or companies will recall everyone but there’s a window to be taken advantage of right now. I’ll certainly po…

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing.

The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will.

Demand already far exceeds supply.

Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they were all debt-free millionaires with their own businesses (usually several) by 40.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by bluebit »

runawaybottle wrote: post #7
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Dentist. The Medical people seem to pay their blood up front and have the rest of their life set. Am I wrong about this? We seem to not have to pay anything up front, but at the cost of a life long rat race. If you want to talk flexibility, some of these doctors show up to the office like three times a week in the long run.

That's the last thing I'd direct my kids towards. To spend a third of your waking life digging in people's dirty mouths because of the stable income is how dreams die.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by adrianN »

runawaybottle wrote: post #7
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Dentist. The Medical people seem to pay their blood up front and have the rest of their life set. Am I wrong about this? We seem to not have to pay anything up front, but at the cost of a life long rat race. If you want to talk flexibility, some of these doctors show up to the office like three times a week in the long run.

That's a good one, but I wonder whether improved dental hygiene practices will severely reduce dentists' incomes in the next decades. At least in my parent's generation all the expensive procedures were caused by poor nutrition and poor dental hygiene during their youth. There is also the possibility that one of those caries vaccines will finally make it to market.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by busterarm »

runawaybottle wrote: post #7
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Dentist. The Medical people seem to pay their blood up front and have the rest of their life set. Am I wrong about this? We seem to not have to pay anything up front, but at the cost of a life long rat race. If you want to talk flexibility, some of these doctors show up to the office like three times a week in the long run.

There's a large supply of Dentists out there not finding much work and there are way more medical school graduates than there are residencies for them.

I know many many medical school graduates who eventually settled for careers in hospital administration because they could not even get a PGY-1 year anywhere. There's not enough supply of the required training. If you went to school in the Caribbean your odds are especially hopeless.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by chrismorgan »

> Share of Hacker News job postings mentioning “remote” and “onsite”

I’d be interested in another chart considering all postings, not just ones that mention “remote” or “onsite”. I expect the trend would still be visible, but not quite so significant.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by [deleted] »

adrianN wrote: post #5
jimbob45 wrote: post #3

I don’t think this is going to last forever but I am trying to take advantage of this remote Pax Romana as long as possible by cramming my big life events in now while my stress and job time commitments are low. I’m certain that either wages will be depressed for remote workers, the jobs will be sent offshore, or companies will recall everyone but there’s a window to be taken advantage of right now. I’ll certainly po…

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

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Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by dang »

busterarm wrote: post #11
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing. The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will. Demand already far exceeds supply. Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they…

Please don't break the site guidelines by going on about downvotes. Besides not doing any good and making boring reading, it often ends up being uncollected garbage when the original comment gets corrective upvotes, as yours has.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by hiddencache »

busterarm wrote: post #11
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing. The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will. Demand already far exceeds supply. Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they…

Demand for HVAC is only going to get bigger on current trends.

Re: For programmers, remote working is becoming the norm

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Post by adrianN »

busterarm wrote: post #11
adrianN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing. The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will. Demand already far exceeds supply. Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they…

Hm, I think those industries are subject to boom and bust cycles in construction.
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