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Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

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Re: Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

#11

iCloud photos is pretty good. I’d say it has a good balance between security and privacy. Probably best in class.

Security and privacy usually don’t need to be balanced; they build on each other. Security and privacy versus usability, sure.

Re: Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

#12

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Dropbox checks for CSAM too.

Checking for CSAM isn't the issue. The issue is that Apple's system design easily extends to checking all sorts of other things - political dissidents, journalists, etc. Not only that, it commits a felony when it transmits found CSAM to a party other than NCMEC (i.e. Apple itself).

Apple’s system design does not easily extend to checking vague subject matter. Every step of the process is tied to hashes of specific photographs.

And do you seriously think they didn’t check the legality of what they built? Really?

Re: Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

#14

Have always used Google Photos. Haven't had any issues and its easy to get others to understand. I realize this does not meet your criteria of privacy conscious but does meet boomer friendly. Sorry

Google Photos has started metering the usage. only 16GB free. will fillup in a year, for most of us with recent phones and camera-autosync-to-GP enabled.

Re: Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Checking for CSAM isn't the issue. The issue is that Apple's system design easily extends to checking all sorts of other things - political dissidents, journalists, etc. Not only that, it commits a felony when it transmits found CSAM to a party other than NCMEC (i.e. Apple itself).

Scanning all your photos in the cloud easily extends to checking all sorts of other things as well.

It does. However people have a greater expectation of privacy on a device they own than on a cloud-based solution where they have voluntarily uploaded content.

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Checking for CSAM isn't the issue. The issue is that Apple's system design easily extends to checking all sorts of other things - political dissidents, journalists, etc. Not only that, it commits a felony when it transmits found CSAM to a party other than NCMEC (i.e. Apple itself).

Apple’s system design does not easily extend to checking vague subject matter. Every step of the process is tied to hashes of specific photographs. And do you seriously think they didn’t check the legality of what they built? Really?

That is not correct. They are algorithms that detect photos that resemble specific photographs.

Re: Ask HN: What are you using to replace shared iCloud Photos albums?

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Checking for CSAM isn't the issue. The issue is that Apple's system design easily extends to checking all sorts of other things - political dissidents, journalists, etc. Not only that, it commits a felony when it transmits found CSAM to a party other than NCMEC (i.e. Apple itself).

Apple’s system design does not easily extend to checking vague subject matter. Every step of the process is tied to hashes of specific photographs. And do you seriously think they didn’t check the legality of what they built? Really?

> specific photographs

That's the catch. Nothing in the system design prevents them from adding hashes of other types of photographs to that database.

> And do you seriously think they didn’t check the legality of what they built?

IANAL, but the law clearly states that transmitting CSAM to any party other than NCMEC is a felony. Apple != NCMEC. More info: https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/929-On...

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