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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by nickthemagicman »

FireBeyond wrote: post #488
nickthemagicman wrote: post #319

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I don't even know what you're talking about. A person with an associate's degree in biology from a community college has more knowledge of the biological sciences than you, the grandparent poster, and most people on the internet. Yet you all are claiming equal authority on the subject as a person who spent eight years in medical school, whatever specialty he chose. > Oh, he was also the first member of Senator to tes…

> A person with an associate's degree in biology from a community college has more knowledge of the biological sciences than you, the grandparent poster, and most people on the internet. My Master's degree in Biomedical Science would probably beg to differ with you, but anyway. I don't claim equal KNOWLEDGE to a physician. Let's be clear on that. And given that this is my first post on this article. What's being stat…

I have 17 PhDs in Biological Sciences and I get massages from the dean of John's Hopkins Medicine daily and my buttocks are actually made out of science diplomas.

The fact that you're supportive of stifling a scientific discussion and supportive.of censorship makes me think youre a fascist and wonder about your credentials.

Science is all about questioning. Arrogant assholes that believe they know the absolute truth are often wrong(and fascist).

And the fact remains...usage of masks is not settled science by any stretch of the imagination.

And for you to claim such and support stifling a conversation about it is disengenuous and makes me think you probably have more of a Masturbation degree in the Biological sciences than a Master's degree.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by _-david-_ »

krapp wrote: post #388
_-david-_ wrote: post #356

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>Who said anything about being totally silenced? The White House believes you should be banned from all social media not just one if you spread misinformation. Maybe that is not totally silenced, but it is getting close to it. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/202...

The personal opinion of the White House press secretary doesn't carry the force of law.

Psaki was not expressing her opinion but the opinion of the White House at least if her statement is to be believed.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by nickthemagicman »

timr wrote: post #604
srinivgp wrote: post #314

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It's pretty conclusive. It's been conclusive for years and years, before COVID-19. There's no question at all that masks reduce infectiousness through the extremely obvious method of preventing some virus particles from going from one person to another, and also no question at all that probability of infection depends on number of virus particles around, and that viruses in general produce worse symptoms when the ini…

> You will find literally zero papers credibly claiming otherwise. Of the papers cited in the WHO meta-analysis of face masks and infection [1], all of the (three!) papers from a non-health-care setting had a confidence interval overlapping 1.0 (i.e. "no benefit"). Of those in a health-care setting, about half had confidence intervals overlapping 1.0 (i.e. "no benefit"): https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/arti…

Thanks for posting. No one on the pro-mask side reads scientific papers.

They're fascists and want to crush their opposition through controlling the narrative instead of actual science.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by krapp »

_-david-_ wrote: post #652
krapp wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The personal opinion of the White House press secretary doesn't carry the force of law.

Psaki was not expressing her opinion but the opinion of the White House at least if her statement is to be believed.

It's still just an opinion. Wake me up when the government has actually taken control of all social media platforms and is forcing them to ban anyone.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by nickthemagicman »

srinivgp wrote: post #314
nickthemagicman wrote: post #287

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There's so much contradictory science on what you're claiming as ultimate truth. There's paper saying masks don't work there's paper saying masks do work. This is not a conclusive settled fact.

It's pretty conclusive. It's been conclusive for years and years, before COVID-19. There's no question at all that masks reduce infectiousness through the extremely obvious method of preventing some virus particles from going from one person to another, and also no question at all that probability of infection depends on number of virus particles around, and that viruses in general produce worse symptoms when the ini…

> It's pretty conclusive. It's been conclusive for years and years

* Citation needed

Pro-maskers think that if they tell people they can fly it's others responsibility to prove that they can't fly.

The burden of proof is on the people claiming that something works.

Do you not understand how science works?

You're saying is 'conclusive' that masks work.

I'm saying you are disengenuouslty parroting media talking points and have to post a scientific paper to prove your claim.

Every paper you will find has flaws and contradiction and inconclusivities.

Texas lifted all Covid restrictions including masks and has lower infection rates per capita than states with mask mandates.

Clearly it's not conclusive.

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Post by aisengard »

xienze wrote: post #381
aisengard wrote: post #272

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The USPS had a plan in place to do just that. The Trump White House stopped it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/18/usps-covid-... Could argue the Trump administration is directly responsible for killing tens of thousands of Americans through that act alone.

> Could argue the Trump administration is directly responsible for killing tens of thousands of Americans through that act alone. Well then why isn’t the Biden admin doing it?

You mean why didn't they go back in time and do it when it could have made a difference? Masks are ubiquitous now, and have been entirely politicized by the GOP. The abject refusal to assign blame to the most malicious administration in this country's history says a lot about many in this community.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by FireBeyond »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #651
FireBeyond wrote: post #488

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A person with an associate's degree in biology from a community college has more knowledge of the biological sciences than you, the grandparent poster, and most people on the internet. My Master's degree in Biomedical Science would probably beg to differ with you, but anyway. I don't claim equal KNOWLEDGE to a physician. Let's be clear on that. And given that this is my first post on this article. What's being stat…

I have 17 PhDs in Biological Sciences and I get massages from the dean of John's Hopkins Medicine daily and my buttocks are actually made out of science diplomas. The fact that you're supportive of stifling a scientific discussion and supportive.of censorship makes me think youre a fascist and wonder about your credentials. Science is all about questioning. Arrogant assholes that believe they know the absolute truth…

It’s not a scientific discussion to -willfully misrepresent- a study that talks of the ability of a mask to -hold- COVID as “proof that masks don’t work in reducing transmission rates”.

And if anyone should know that it’s a fucking MD.

So take your personal attacks and fuck off with them.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by nickthemagicman »

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #423
srinivgp wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty conclusive. It's been conclusive for years and years, before COVID-19. There's no question at all that masks reduce infectiousness through the extremely obvious method of preventing some virus particles from going from one person to another, and also no question at all that probability of infection depends on number of virus particles around, and that viruses in general produce worse symptoms when the ini…

> It's been conclusive for years and years, before COVID-19 What? The overwhelming literature showed the exact opposite! That cloth masks did not prevent Influenza whatsoever. I'd start with https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/ as a great review, and then take a look at some specific studies like this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/ > The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cl…

Thank you for posting links.

I'm sorry you're getting downvoted by fascists for posting science.

This is the new world we live in.

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Post by [deleted] »

quantumBerry wrote: post #650
nicetryguy wrote: post #637

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I assume you won't change your views until some sort of personal tragedy happens. That's a shame. I'm imagining you as the gentleman being intubated on the ventilator with the "Don't Fauci My Florida" novelty T-shirt. I can't respect or level with that my dude. I'm sorry. GL HF

>m imagining you as the gentleman being intubated on the ventilator with the "Don't Fauci My Florida" novelty T-shirt. Considering I'm fully vaccinated and the rate of death of the vaccinated with at least one cause listed as COVID in my state is currently about 1 per 75,000 person per year, I'm afraid the odds of that happening is rather low. But glad to know you're literally reveling in the idea of my death merely…

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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Post by babesh »

babesh wrote: post #253

I wonder how many people agree with these statements and which ones: - The Delta variant is more virulent but less lethal than the previous variants - There will be additional variants (lambda is already here) - Certain masks are reasonably effective (N95, KN95, multiple layers) - Certain masks are much less effective (garter) - Masks are sometimes worn incorrectly or intentionally ineffectively - Many children under…

People rather believe their side than reality.

Just a little while later (same day).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28151372

Delta seems very contagious amongst the Astra Zeneca vaccinated. Those viral loads seem pretty darn high for vaccinated people.

Vaccine entry mandates don't seem to make as much sense as masks for everyone who hasn't gotten it yet, vaccines for those who want them, and COVID cards for those who have caught the virus. The people who recovered seem to be the most resistant to new strains. They don't need masks.

Masks the whole time in planes. Masks for small children too. N95 or KN95 or triple layer cloth.

Outdoor dining ok if all four sides are open else shut it down.

That seems to be what the science says if you want to maximize saved lives? Figuring out best course seems much harder with economic and social costs.

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