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Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by thefourthchime »

ramesh31 wrote: post #196
saalweachter wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually use FAAMG instead of FAANG because I don't understand what Netflix is doing in there.

>I usually use FAAMG instead of FAANG because I don't understand what Netflix is doing in there. FAANG is about the pay, not the prestige of the company. They pay so far above the rest of the market that they are really only competing for talent with themselves. Average total comp at Netflix is well north of $500k for an individual contributor.

I’ve been curious about this. Is there a list of companies that pay way and above outside of FAANMG?

I work for a large media company as at Sr director level equivalent engineer. The pay is certainly not north of 500k

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Post by rsynnott »

Uehreka wrote: post #115
jldugger wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

People probably should. If the acronym includes Netflix, it definitely needs to include MS, they’re way bigger.

The acronym was coined in 2013, when Microsoft arguably looked on track to be the next IBM (the year after, Ballmer departed and their turnaround started). So it kind of made sense at the time, maybe? It’s a bit odd now, granted.

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Post by thefourthchime »

reureu wrote: post #117
jldugger wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

If we're actually gonna do this, can we at least rearrange and make it "MAFANG"?

Agreed. We don’t need another MAGA

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Post by joshuak »

deanCommie wrote: post #77

A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…

You have fooled them all. The fallacy of imposter syndrome is not that you are better than you think you are, but that others are worse.

You have fooled them, but you discount the fact that they have fooled you too.

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Post by fleshdaddy »

ramesh31 wrote: post #196
saalweachter wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually use FAAMG instead of FAANG because I don't understand what Netflix is doing in there.

>I usually use FAAMG instead of FAANG because I don't understand what Netflix is doing in there. FAANG is about the pay, not the prestige of the company. They pay so far above the rest of the market that they are really only competing for talent with themselves. Average total comp at Netflix is well north of $500k for an individual contributor.

I would think that Microsoft and Amazon only seem quite a bit lower because of the lower cost of living in Seattle right? Also though taking a looks at levels.fyi salary information none of the FAANG companies are really included in the top paying list.

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Post by rsynnott »

genewitch wrote: post #160
swiley wrote: post #153

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I've seen "FAGMAN" in a couple places. It really reflects the general sentiment towards those companies as well.

When I'm on E2EE I only use that acronym. And I've worked for one of the companies and had IP stolen by two others. Maybe that's why...

Well, aren’t you just the edgiest.

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Post by 123pie123 »

deanCommie wrote: post #77

A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…

I can relate to most of the things you've said

for me, my imposter syndrome comes mainly when I look around and see everyone working hard and struggling to do stuff well and I feel like I'm not even in 2nd gear and doing as well.

So I think I feel like I'm only putting in less then 25% effort and getting 100% of the normal results (relative to others) - it feels wrong,

it's like finishing a test or exam too soon and looking around seeing everyone only half way through the same exam. I then start to worry what have I done wrong?

with many years of contract work, I've realised It's not me!!

I used to try and hide it since no-one likes a smart arse - especially a contractor. but now I do blow a my little trumpet now and then

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Post by tester756 »

jldugger wrote: post #87
deanCommie wrote: post #77

A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…

Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

I do

because I wouldn't put video streaming service among tech behemoths that create operating systems, compilers, programming languages, databases, put shitton into ML research and many, many other

I'm not saying that video streaming is easy, but I believe any of those could do it easily from technical standpoint.

Google, Facebook and Amazon already do, idk about Apple and MS.

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Post by nerpderp82 »

123pie123 wrote: post #218
deanCommie wrote: post #77

A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…

I can relate to most of the things you've said for me, my imposter syndrome comes mainly when I look around and see everyone working hard and struggling to do stuff well and I feel like I'm not even in 2nd gear and doing as well. So I think I feel like I'm only putting in less then 25% effort and getting 100% of the normal results (relative to others) - it feels wrong, it's like finishing a test or exam too soon and…

I am going to use this for my humble brag training next week.
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