YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

Post by xienze » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:08 PM UTC

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I read one study that indicated an N95/KN95 mask was 10 times more effective than the regular (non) medical masks. I always thought it was unusual that the US government just didn’t mail KN95 masks to people, or widely distribute them at cost. And encourage their use. If something is 10 times less effective, it’s basically not even effective in comparison to what’s possible.

The USPS had a plan in place to do just that. The Trump White House stopped it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/09/18/usps-covid-... Could argue the Trump administration is directly responsible for killing tens of thousands of Americans through that act alone.

Post by slownews45 » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:08 PM UTC

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If he meant that "cloth masks aren't good enough " he could have said that. But he's a senator. His statement was a dog whistle to his base. They're not looking for an argument that people should be wearing N95s, they want to discredit all masking. The word "prevent" is a red herring -- nothing is 100% -- the goal is to decrease infection, not prevent it.

Are surgical/N95 masks used correctly, though? Most people do not seem to be aware that 1. they last a few hours, 2. you shouldn't remove/touch/wear them again and 3. they are not re-usable. Masks are great if used correctly, otherwise they are massive vector of the virus and everyone is taking it with them.

Post by CrazyCatDog » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:08 PM UTC

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It is misinformation. Masks (cloth or otherwise) were meant to reduce infectiousness, not completely prevent the possibility of infection. Masks (cloth or otherwise) do in fact reduce infectiousness. The misinformation is the implication that masks are pointless because you can still get infected. The point of masks is to get the probability of spreading it down by some multiple, not to be a personal not-my-problem-a…

There's so much contradictory science on what you're claiming as ultimate truth. There's paper saying masks don't work there's paper saying masks do work. This is not a conclusive settled fact.

Post by foolinaround » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:09 PM UTC

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As a single data point: despite a universal mask mandate that was enacted early on (May 6th 2020) along with a very high compliance, Massachusetts had the 3rd highest COVID death rate in the US (as of Aug 9): https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi...

A little over 20% of Massachusetts deaths occurred before May 6th, 2020. Another 20% occurred in the 3-4 weeks immediately ofter which are likely largely attributable to people who got COVID before early May. If you compare Massachusetts deaths after that point to other states they come out somewhere near the middle.

Post by lupire » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:10 PM UTC

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Totally agree, YouTube is in the wrong here. They are no arbitrator of truth or facts, leave that to the courts and allow 'real free speech' in online platforms.

So 'real free speech' is about requiring private companies to carry the message of a politically powerful agent of the government?