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YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Wearing masks is usually only a minor inconvenience. It's a minor inconvenience at the grocery store. It's a major inconvenience to wear one at gyms. It's a major inconvenience with regards to socializing with friends (a core human need), I really hate not being able to read other people's facial expressions when I talk to them. It's a major inconvenience to require it at schools. It's horrible for kids not to be abl…

You know what's really a "major inconvenience"? Getting intubated and not being able to breathe well for the rest of your life, assuming you survive at all. You know what's really a "major inconvenience" for kids? Dying, or transmitting covid to their parents, killing them, and then growing up with no parents.

Most kids will not die from COVID-19, and most healthy adults won't be intubated.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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I’m long past resisting this sort of thing or speaking up about it at all. It’s been five years of this. Cards are on the table, we know who runs the tech companies and what they’re willing to do. Time to accept it and adapt.

If I were a betting man or had any money I’d put it on Rumble. They seem to have a strong engineering org and have managed a few large spikes from RSBN videos. Their site is even maybe reminiscent of old school YouTube.

The pendulum is gonna shift and whack a whole bunch of people in the face. Censorship, internet routes around it, blah blah blah... things will self correct, especially once this current generation of teenagers starts rebelling against their woke parents.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Probably has something to do with the 600k+ dead Americans.

Every year, ~647,000 Americans die from heart disease alone. Even if the COVID death numbers aren't over-inflated, I guarantee you that if I were to time-travel to 2019 and ask you if you think that it would be worth precipitating a global supply chain disruption, missed schooling and medical appointments for children around the globe, both first and third world, and the greatest erosion in civil liberties in Western…

I, for one, wouldn't think that was crazy, no. Not when the preventability of those deaths is proportional to how well people stick to pandemic mitigation protocol. Very, very few people are willing to just shrug and say "600,000 preventable deaths is acceptable" in this context.

The pandemic creates challenges that are uniquely tuned to impact the American "rugged individualism" approach to problem solving that works well in most circumstances. Pandemic mitigation is a serious collective action problem (at the limit, it wouldn't take more than total isolation for four weeks to completely burn the virus out... And that's never going to happen in the United States, nor should anyone expect it to).

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Or refuse, and enhance the herd immunity, which is the only thing that will ever really slow the virus in the first place. (Like the flu and colds, this virus will be with us forever and cannot be eradicated, because unlike smallpox and the like, this one has both animal and human hosts...)

I rather think "let's go for herd immunity" is something we need to collectively decide. It's a huge decision and impacts everyone. Like many decisions with collective impact, we rightly restrict the rights of individuals to go their own way on it.

Obviously there isn't collective agreement for a mandate. Are you saying the government should impose a mandate without collectively deciding, or even debating?

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Probably has something to do with the 600k+ dead Americans.

To say nothing about the costs of globally increased hunger, unrest, depression, deaths of despair, neglected+abused children, and on and on - that billions of people in the world will continue to pay for years to come in order to try to save at most a couple million lives of people with mostly significant pre-existing conditions and of advanced years that were mostly "on their way out". Why not forget about the futu…

Covid sucks but for most of the population it is now just an inconvenience to mitigate it. We don’t need to do big lockdowns anymore. I’m ok to take a vaccine or wear a mask indoors to save ten million lives.

I think you protest too much about simply wearing a mask or getting a shot.

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That’s not “misinformation.” It’s a perfectly legitimate argument against ineffective government mandates. In a cost-benefit balancing framework, it points out that the benefits will be much less than expected.

> ineffective government mandates There's the bait and switch. You see, cloth masks aren't as effective as N95 mask, that doesn't mean they aren't effective. Nor does it mean that the government mandates to wear masks are ineffective. Frankly, you can look at nearly every other world government that issued similar guidance to the CDC and in all cases those countries did better than the US. Why? Because it wasn't a po…

You want to argue that Covid results are due to politics?

Then maybe you can tell us why blue states NJ, NY, and MA have the highest death rates in the US?

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Let them? First rule of internet is don't trust things on the Internet. Cross reference and double check. Everyone makes mistakes or lies.

How can you cross reference and double check if only one side is presented and the internet is the main means by which one double checks? This is the conundrum I haven't figured out.

Go to the library. (Hopefully you still have one.)

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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This is unquestionably misinformation, and Rand Paul needs to have a permanent muzzle installed until covid is extinct. Masks DO WORK. Yes, N95s work better than cloth masks, usually, but cloth masks work very well for reducing the likelihood that a covid-positive person will transmit the virus. This isn't controversial. Rand Paul needs to stop spreading lies on purpose, and if he won't, I fully support YouTube telli…

You are actively spreading disinformation. SARS-2 ("covid") will never be extinct. It is completely infeasible to eradicate a highly infectious zoonotic respiratory virus w/ abundant animal reservoirs. > but cloth masks work very well for reducing the likelihood that a covid-positive person will transmit the virus You cannot possibly honestly make this statement in good faith, considering that there has only ever bee…

> You are actively spreading disinformation. SARS-2 ("covid") will never be extinct.

Sigh. THIS seems to be a deliberate misreading too.

Stopping the pandemic doesn't require eradicating the disease. Malaria remains endemic and largely unvaccinated, but controlled.

And cloth masks are a vitally important tool in making that happen. Claiming otherwise by arguing against a strawman is... yeah, disinformation.

OH MY GOD. After a year and a half, why won't you people just wear your masks?! Why!?

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Rand Paul used the dichotomy of "works" vs. "doesn't work" which is in line with "stops" vs. "doesn't stop."

It's a false dichotomy. None of them will stop covid. Some will just do better than others in different situations.

Maybe we can have a discussion about it in the comment section of the YouTube video.

Oh wait...

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