OTOH, YouTube happily hosts propaganda like lies about the Pfizer vaccine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO3g0jCO6v8
They keep spamming me with that kind of fake news
YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fine with that. It would create an even playing field in theory and that's a hell of a lot better than what we have right now which is some politicans getting to lie with impunity and others having their content removed for wrongthink.
Hate speech is not "wrongthink". Don't defend racists by pretending they are just thinking outside the box.
There in-lies the problem. "Hate speech" is just speech you don't like or choose to be offended by. You have no problem with "hate speech" that suits you and your political worldview.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
The phrases "doesn't work" and "doesn't prevent" have become staples of the COVID disinformation toolkit. Anything that is not exactly 100% effective transforms into "doesn't work" in the narrative. Educated experts will never say something is 100% effective, so this is always an easy way for detractors to "prove" that the experts agree XYZ doesn't work. EDIT: Other examples: Some people have gotten pregnant while on…
I'm not sure this tack is sufficient to defend YouTube's policy. This is quite close to arguing that a sitting senator shouldn't have opinions on what government policy is meant to be achieving. Rand Paul is (1) elected (2) holds a medical license. YouTube is suspending him because (1) he is disagreeing with government policy and (2) they don't like his medical opinion. I think it is fair to say you are defending (1)…
Not objecting to or defending the policy, just pointing out that Rounding 99% down to “doesn’t work” is a common disinformation tactic to be aware of when you hear it.
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That's why we social distance and use other methods. It's defense in depth. Though it seemed that these days we mostly stopped social distancing.
You obviously can't expect people to continue social distancing. It's not sustainable, and harms mental health.
Killing your friends and family harms mental health a lot more.
Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
#245OTOH, YouTube happily hosts propaganda like lies about the Pfizer vaccine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO3g0jCO6v8 They keep spamming me with that kind of fake news
That is what happens when people are involved.
Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
My wife and I were looking into traveling from the US to Europe this summer, if the borders had opened up earlier. At the time, Germany was not allowing cloth masks on public transport. N95, surgical masks, or stay home. So here we have a sitting US senator being censored for agreeing with the German health authorities. WTF?!?
If he meant that "cloth masks aren't good enough " he could have said that. But he's a senator. His statement was a dog whistle to his base. They're not looking for an argument that people should be wearing N95s, they want to discredit all masking. The word "prevent" is a red herring -- nothing is 100% -- the goal is to decrease infection, not prevent it.
I find mentioning dog whistles as an argument to discredit someone unconvincing. It’s a way to twist someone's words to whatever you want. Dog whistle = Someone said something but since I can read minds I know he/she meant something else.
Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
#247> YouTube indicated that examples of the offending content in the video included the line: “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection.” > It also included the quote: “Trying to shape human behavior isn’t the same as following the actual science which tells us that cloth masks don’t work.” Regardless of what you think about YouTube's misinformation policy, I don't think this i…
It is misinformation. Masks (cloth or otherwise) were meant to reduce infectiousness, not completely prevent the possibility of infection. Masks (cloth or otherwise) do in fact reduce infectiousness. The misinformation is the implication that masks are pointless because you can still get infected. The point of masks is to get the probability of spreading it down by some multiple, not to be a personal not-my-problem-a…
His comment was on masks reducing the risk of you getting infected, not infecting others. Which is a selfish point, but nonetheless a correct one.
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> he also knows that his ultimate job as a politician is to make arguments that will resonate with his constituents Wider context check, his job as a politician is to serve his constituents by leading , even when it may be difficult. Pandering to the lazy and ignorant in a state of perpetual campaigning is an utter dereliction of duty.
As of May 2021 vaccine hesitancy by % of group is highest among PhDs: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v... Funny how one's enemies are always the lazy ignorant ones.
Wearing a mask is inconvenient and much of the resistance is just people being lazy and then rationalizing it. Furthermore, people who go for the same old talking points without acknowledging counterarguments are by definition ignorant.
I'm no fan of the democrats either, and I'd say there is a lot of lazy/ignorant campaigning on their part as well. But on this topic at least the democrats acknowledged the pandemic and aimed for some type of response. There are actually conservative approaches to many of the problems facing our society. But rather than adopting those positions and making public debate be about the merits of conservative/progressive approaches, the republican party has chosen a path of simply denying that the problems exist at all. This cannot stand.
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This is unquestionably misinformation, and Rand Paul needs to have a permanent muzzle installed until covid is extinct. Masks DO WORK. Yes, N95s work better than cloth masks, usually, but cloth masks work very well for reducing the likelihood that a covid-positive person will transmit the virus. This isn't controversial. Rand Paul needs to stop spreading lies on purpose, and if he won't, I fully support YouTube telli…
You are actively spreading disinformation. SARS-2 ("covid") will never be extinct. It is completely infeasible to eradicate a highly infectious zoonotic respiratory virus w/ abundant animal reservoirs. > but cloth masks work very well for reducing the likelihood that a covid-positive person will transmit the virus You cannot possibly honestly make this statement in good faith, considering that there has only ever bee…
> You are actively spreading disinformation. SARS-2 ("covid") will never be extinct. It is completely infeasible to eradicate a highly infectious zoonotic respiratory virus w/ abundant animal reservoirs.
misinformation. Parent poster did not state covid will be extinct, they said, until it is extinct. If that is in fact never, Rand's words not being amplified around the globe for 24/7 access is still advisable.
Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
My wife and I were looking into traveling from the US to Europe this summer, if the borders had opened up earlier. At the time, Germany was not allowing cloth masks on public transport. N95, surgical masks, or stay home. So here we have a sitting US senator being censored for agreeing with the German health authorities. WTF?!?
If he meant that "cloth masks aren't good enough " he could have said that. But he's a senator. His statement was a dog whistle to his base. They're not looking for an argument that people should be wearing N95s, they want to discredit all masking. The word "prevent" is a red herring -- nothing is 100% -- the goal is to decrease infection, not prevent it.
I am pretty sure a large number of people on "your side" (for the record I am on Rand's side on this) want to prevent it
We have evidence of this
First you said "2 weeks to flatten the curve" we did that, and flattened the curve hospitals were saved ... but you were not appeased
then you said "a few months to reduce the deaths" we did that and death rate dropped... but you were not appeased
Then you said "a few more months to reduce the infection rates" we did that and the infection rate dropped ...but you were not appeased
Then you said "a few MORE months to the vaccine" we did that and got the jab ...but you were not appeased
We have now come the conclusion that you will accept nothing less than a complete eradication of COVID which by all expert account is impossible. I am unwilling to cede anymore of my freedom to your demands.