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Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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So, we have a group of people who lack sufficient skills for their job, and we have another group who _feel like_ they lack sufficient skills for their job. The author is claiming that these groups have no overlap whatsoever. There's absolutely no way that could be true. Considering how many people are bad at what they do, and how many people feel like they aren't good enough, surely there's at least one person in the world who is poor at their job and realizes it. The author supports their outlandishly broad generalization with nothing more than anecdotes. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not anecdotes.

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Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

People probably should. If the acronym includes Netflix, it definitely needs to include MS, they’re way bigger.

Microsoft wasn't historically an "internet company".

They were an OS only, non-internet company, compared to the rest. When the acronym was created, it was still that way.

Even now, they make most of their butter from OS installs, although yes, they have branched out a lot.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

Lmao, had the same thought. Also, did you get a lot of those participation trophies when you were a kid? I read a take on those recently, along the lines of, "if the adults always praise everyone, then their praise is meaningless and can't be trusted". Ie, a recipe for impostor syndrome in later life. I certainly experience that. Anytime I participate in an activity that I'm naturally talented at, I figure it's just…

Participation trophies weren't a big thing for GenX or Millennials, according to Google's N-gram Viewer, showing up instead for Boomers and Zoomers (and the Silent Generation).

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=participation+...

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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I guess I just don't really believe this. It sounds nice, and it might even be a good falsehood to tell yourself for personal motivation—but that doesn't make it true. Yes, of course if you're an actual fraudster intending to commit fraud, you're probably comfortable with committing fraud. But feeling "impostor syndrome" colloquially means second-guessing whether you're good enough to deserve your position. There are…

Agree, specially because everyone has above average IQ. That being said this conversation always feels to me like "are soldiers afraid before a battle" type discussion. Either they are or they aren't has no bearing on what they do. They have to be brave and get out there. Same here, just realise everyone has doubts, and instead of spending time making a big thing of it and "dealing with it", just put your head down a…

Ah yes, keep it all bottled up and under no circumstances talk about it. Totally leads to improved quality of life.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

I usually use FAAMG instead of FAANG because I don't understand what Netflix is doing in there.

Using all the bandwidth on the interwebs.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Total derail but: > I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. Does anyone other than a MS employee put an M in FAANG?

I enjoyed FAANGMULA and TARANTULAS fun meme There are also a handful of sub $100bn marketcap publicly traded tech companies that pay on par of FAANGs and may have more enticing vesting schedules too. Greater upside as well.

Would love to hear about some of those companies

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

#148
Let me get this straight. People who are unqualified will always judge themselves to be qualified, and only people who are actually qualified will judge themselves to be unqualified.

It is never the case that someone finds themselves in a situation where they correctly judge that they're in over their head?

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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I still think that the acronym should be "FN MAGA". Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Amazon are the big-4 companies, with notably larger market caps than Facebook and Netflix, and those 4 are more broad platforms/conglomerates while Facebook and Netflix are closely associated with a single app or small set of apps.

Facebook has grown into a lot of the things. It probably deserves to be grouped with the others. I honestly thing FAANG became the acronym because these companies were making big waves simultaneously at one point, and the acronym is attractive. There’s never been any good reason not to include Microsoft except that for a long time it was considered old and stodgy. Netflix doesn’t make sense in terms of market cap, an…

Netflix is fairly comparable to Disney in terms of business model and market cap.

Which isn't bad -- I assume Disney also has a number of highly-paid SWEs -- but for me the difference between FAAMG and Netflix is that (as far as I can tell) Netflix doesn't employee a giant pile of SWEs doing blue sky research / doomed projects only tangentially related to the core business.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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post #143

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People probably should. If the acronym includes Netflix, it definitely needs to include MS, they’re way bigger.

Microsoft wasn't historically an "internet company". They were an OS only, non-internet company, compared to the rest. When the acronym was created, it was still that way. Even now, they make most of their butter from OS installs, although yes, they have branched out a lot.

They were, though now I feel Microsoft is actually a more diversified tech company than the FAANGs. Consumer software and hardware, enterprise software, cloud / Internet, gaming, open source (github, etc.)
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