GitHub’s engineering team has moved to Codespaces

Post by Barrin92 » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

leppr wrote: post #443

politelemon wrote: post #426

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Context is hugely important, and equally important is not to get sucked in by the HN echo chamber - that is, consider the MS of _now_ as opposed to that of 15 years ago which HN likes to bash (and give a free pass to other companies doing nefarious things). The FB example is considering the FB of _now_ and not 15 years ago. In terms of the biggest companies in the sector, MS has been doing much more for developers an…

The MS that's killing their own single most popular product, Windows, with anti-user features, is the MS of now . Releasing VS code and WSL doesn't redeem their sins.

Post by tgsovlerkhgsel » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

politelemon wrote: post #426

bogwog wrote: post #358

Serious question: if I were to use this, would Microsoft collect analytics on me (code written, keystrokes, mouse movements, sleep/work schedule, productivity metrics, etc) and monetize that data by using it to build some AI product like Copilot, or build a productivity dashboard so managers can fire people for not being productive enough (like Xsolla did), use it to serve me ads, or do some stupid/irresponsible/unet…

Context is hugely important, and equally important is not to get sucked in by the HN echo chamber - that is, consider the MS of _now_ as opposed to that of 15 years ago which HN likes to bash (and give a free pass to other companies doing nefarious things). The FB example is considering the FB of _now_ and not 15 years ago. In terms of the biggest companies in the sector, MS has been doing much more for developers an…

Post by Willish42 » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

munk-a wrote: post #457

tshaddox wrote: post #430

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If a company has a certain type of investors or shareholders, they may have no choice but to collect value from you all means possible regardless of how much value they are already collecting.

One very underrated (or overrated depending on your pessimism) way to deliver value to customers is by offering privacy as one of the products you deliver. The issue is that privacy is hard to prove and so most claims of privacy are accepted at face value and many proclaimed privacy minded services are very much the opposite under the hood. This, I think, is a place where we need some regulation to codify some differ…

Post by atsaloli » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:33 PM UTC

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #482

slownews45 wrote: post #411

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If a business is paying for this product, then THEY (not you) are the customer. And in that context - yes, Microsoft may be asked or build a product for managers to manage their workforce, particularly if remote. This could involve presence tracking, engagement tracking (ie, do you open alerts / read your bug reports) etc. One approach would be to monitor what management considers productive / successful employees an…

I really hope that if this happens, DPAs bring the hammer down on everyone involved (both MS and companies using it) in a useful timeframe (i.e. before it has become socially acceptable because "everyone is doing it" and there are no consequences).

Post by zacmps » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:35 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #463

selykg wrote: post #229

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If you read the article, that's an option with Github's code spaces setup. > Visual Studio Code is great. It’s the primary tool GitHub.com engineers use to interface with codespaces. But asking our Vim and Emacs users to commit to a graphical editor is less great. If Codespaces was our future, we had to bring everyone along. snip > From there, GitHub engineers can run Vim, Emacs, or even ed if they so desire.

I did not understand that part. Every heavy Emacs or vim user have its own customizations of editor. How does it work with shared image?