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Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by rubatuga »

WatchDog wrote: post #210
rubatuga wrote: post #108

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yes, you can use usbmuxd with macOS, but it means you have to purchase a Mac, and who wants to run macOS as a server OS.

I'm confused, twofold, first of all being that usbmuxd means you need to connect to a computer, second of all being that it seems usbmuxd works on various platforms, not just macOS?

https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/...

usbmuxd is responsible for wifi sync. However, it appears there is usbmuxd2 which is compatible with Linux and support wifi sync. I think you may be in luck! If you figure it out, please let me know.

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by sneak »

rubatuga wrote: post #189
sneak wrote: post #158

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Doesn't matter; everyone you iMessage with is sending the plaintext of all of your conversations and attachments to Apple in their device's non-e2e iCloud backup. SMS too! Local backups won't get you privacy when the other end of the chat is still doing cloud backups. It's sort of like moving email providers and continuing to send and receive email from people with gmail addresses. Google is still reading all of your…

If you use signal, it won’t back up to iCloud or even local. So everyone should switch to signal!

When un-backdoored e2e messaging becomes illegal, Apple will pull apps like Signal from the App Store.

Additionally, if the iPhone scans your local data for verboten files, anything you receive or have available to send via Signal would still get picked up and reported on.

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by onethought »

jiocrag wrote: post #219
onethought wrote: post #218

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> Personally, i doubt that china required apple to do this since they already get what they want. Then we agree. That is exactly what I said. Re Chinese gov is evil - ra ra ra. No they aren’t. Well no more than any other country. They just see the world and their place in it differently to you. But they haven’t invaded anyone since Ghengis Khan … yet they’ve been invaded by most of their neighbours and most of the Am…

“they just see the world and their place in it differently to you.” You’re so right. For instance, the Chinese government sees that nothing of importance happened in Tiananman square in 1989 while the rest of the world sees a massacre.

Like I said all countries do terrible crap. Don’t fall for the propaganda of one. There is no golden child country that we should all be aiming to be.

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by Thorrez »

heavyset_go wrote: post #194
Thorrez wrote: post #70

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What data are they responding with? Account name and creation date? IP addresses used to log in to the account? iCloud backups?

Apple specifically says that it gives customer information and customer data when responding to data requests. Given that delineation, I'll trust Apple when they say they gave customer data away instead of just information like account name or creation date.

Yeah, it looks like there were "0-499" "National Security - FISA Content Requests" for "20,500-20,999" "Users/Accounts" and that Apple responds to those "with information obtained from iCloud".

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by birdyrooster »

Maxburn wrote: post #138
birdyrooster wrote: post #133

The answer is simple. Disable iCloud/iMessage, backup/restore your files the old fashioned way, and use Telegram or something for messaging. Don’t even opt into any of the ways they can spy on you. iCloud and iMessage suck anyways, you aren’t really losing anything of value

Apple can reach in and turn those on and trigger a backup whenever they want. I'm actually curious how telegram and signal deal with this, I haven't researched that yet. End to end doesn't work if the endpoint is compromised, and apple has that baked in as a "feature".

> Apple can reach in and turn those on and trigger a backup whenever they want.

And they can start showing ads on your springboard, but they don't because its not in their self interest. Certainly if Apple did this, it would be the end of iPhone dominance.

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Post by sunshineforever »

echelon wrote: post #169
sunshineforever wrote: post #137

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So I can encrypt my files but does that mean it'll still be proactively scanned for MFing child pornography without any prior evidence? I don't want that on my phone because I'm not a criminal.

Solution: Don't buy Apple.

Never again!

luckily, I haven't used an iPhone as my main phone in years.

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by shmoe »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #206
shmoe wrote: post #182

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Just fyi the new acronym CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) is much more fitting.. CP just makes it seem like dudes getting off on pictures and not evidence of a crime having taken place which is how I had it explained to me.

So CP is cancelled now? We all know what it means, good grief.

I'm sorry it offends you, but if you listen to a decent explanation it makes much better sense. There's more to it than printed material (definition of pornography). It's photographic evidence of a crime scene.

Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)

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Post by jiocrag »

onethought wrote: post #223
jiocrag wrote: post #219

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“they just see the world and their place in it differently to you.” You’re so right. For instance, the Chinese government sees that nothing of importance happened in Tiananman square in 1989 while the rest of the world sees a massacre.

Like I said all countries do terrible crap. Don’t fall for the propaganda of one. There is no golden child country that we should all be aiming to be.

Ah, so every governmental regime is equally evil. We can excuse nazi Germany or the Khmer Rouge because “all countries do evil crap.”

Seems as though you’re the one feeding on a heap of freshmen-year college cultural equality propaganda.

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