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Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by okamiueru »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #35
nicolashahn wrote: post #2

Hmm. I don't usually get imposter syndrome. Wait, does that mean this is saying I am an imposter? Oh no, what if I am? But wait, wasn't that thought imposter syndrome? That means I'm not an imposter. Wait, now I'm back to not having imposter syndrome. Oh no.

Your comment is an example of a logical fallacy called "affirming the consequent." Borrowing from Wikipedia, a good example of affirming the consequent is: 1. If an animal is a dog, then it has four legs. 2. My cat has four legs. 3. Therefore, my cat is a dog. The problem is the conclusion is the result of a reversal of the conditional statement. Similarly, you've said, essentially, 1. If I am an imposter, then I wil…

What a clever way to finish of your point. It made my day.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by throw149102 »

xpe wrote: post #44
throw149102 wrote: post #37

There are people who are impostors who don't get impostor syndrome, impostors who do get impostor syndrome, non-impostors who get impostor syndrome, and non-impostors who don't get impostor syndrome. The first category is often full of narcissists, who think they know more despite evidence, or literal cons like described in the post. The second category is people who are unfortunately correct about their situation, b…

Some constructive criticism: this comment was useful and on-topic up until this part... > IMHO this is why we've ended up in a society where no one takes responsibility for their own lives. I'm not going to comment on this sentence and the many lengthy paragraphs after it, because I find it to be a distraction from the core theme and purpose of this comment page. throw149102 -- I'd like to see you discuss your though…

Thanks! I appreciate that you read any part of that gigantic wall of a comment. I actually have a blog, but I don't have anything on it yet. Maybe I'll write something longform on that instead.

I think your criticism is good - I think there is something I want to express between the relationship of a society that takes responsibility for itself and a person who takes responsibility for themselves, but what I wrote is off from what I'm really trying to express.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by ljm »

Trasmatta wrote: post #52

I'm a bit tired of hearing about imposter syndrome, honestly. It's become trendy to claim you have it, and I feel like the actual number of people suffering from it is much smaller than the self-diagnosed sample.

Like a lot of things on the internet, it just seems like we like to find a sense of community by labelling ourselves or building an identity. And I'm sure there is an impostor syndrome support group out there somewhere.

In a deeper sense, I feel like there's also a growing desire to express vulnerability, and so hearing people talk more openly about this stuff doesn't mean it's a trend or that it's invalid in some form, it's instead bucking the trend of dealing in silence.

The truth would sit somewhere between those angles.

http://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html

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Post by cyberge99 »

greesil wrote: post #39
ARandomerDude wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is an example of a logical fallacy called "affirming the consequent." Borrowing from Wikipedia, a good example of affirming the consequent is: 1. If an animal is a dog, then it has four legs. 2. My cat has four legs. 3. Therefore, my cat is a dog. The problem is the conclusion is the result of a reversal of the conditional statement. Similarly, you've said, essentially, 1. If I am an imposter, then I wil…

Watch out for zebra crossings.

And the one that got me when I was in the UK: The humped Zebra crossing.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by j7ake »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #35
nicolashahn wrote: post #2

Hmm. I don't usually get imposter syndrome. Wait, does that mean this is saying I am an imposter? Oh no, what if I am? But wait, wasn't that thought imposter syndrome? That means I'm not an imposter. Wait, now I'm back to not having imposter syndrome. Oh no.

Your comment is an example of a logical fallacy called "affirming the consequent." Borrowing from Wikipedia, a good example of affirming the consequent is: 1. If an animal is a dog, then it has four legs. 2. My cat has four legs. 3. Therefore, my cat is a dog. The problem is the conclusion is the result of a reversal of the conditional statement. Similarly, you've said, essentially, 1. If I am an imposter, then I wil…

Is this related to mistaking an "if" statement in math as "if and only if" ?

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Post by the_only_law »

aixi wrote: post #59

I feel that what has helped me a lot with any sense of doubt about my capabilities is assisting and mentoring junior/mid-level developers; you really get a reality check on how much you've learned over the years.

I actually had a conversation a few months back with some CS students close to graduating. I kinda felt that, but then the job market reverted that feeling real quick.
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