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Just save your vault as a local folder and sync it yourself. I use SyncThing.
I think the problem here is that 1Password wants to remove "standalone" vaults altogether, preventing any form of 3rd party sync solution.
I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…
I saw something mentioned about self-hosted vaults. That is something I might consider for my family.
I advocated for the use of 1pass at work precisely because we can share strong passwords with the team. Otherwise, people would just use the same, well-known weak passwords for everything, including business critical ones like domain registrar or Gsuite admin or the root AWS account.
I am not as happy about having another Electron app running on my local box. I hope they spent time locking things down. On the other hand, if it means my wife (on Windows) gets feature parity with my macOS client, that would be good. Even better if the Linux desktop gets feature parity and no longer have to rely on the web or browser plugin.
1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!
I recently cancelled Evernote after 12 years of paying for it due to their new Electron client. I've been using 1Password since 2008 and I'll be doing the same thing. I have tolerated the UI regressions and even subscription with version 7, but Electron is just unacceptable for what was once an amazing Mac app that put Apple's apps to shame.
I got rid of two of them — Evernote for exactly the same reason.
1pwd going the Electron route would have put me close, but not over the edge — but the fact that they seem to have willy-nilly removed local vaults does.
These days it sometimes feels like one has to write all essential software oneself. Or go back to DOS and plain text files.
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I use Bitwarden for shared passwords with my family (using an Organisation). For my personal passwords, I prefer keeping a local KeePass vault (I access over a local network drive, VPN in elsewhere). I totally agree that primitives are some of the least important parts of choosing password managers, but what I like about KeePass is that you can use Argon2 as the password derivation function and specify your hardness…
I love that KeePass works with pretty much whatever sync service you prefer. Personally, I use it with Google Drive and it even works with Android/iOS clients. However, would definitely recommend KeePassXC for desktop.
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Bitwarden can 1-click import 1Password vaults.
That pushes me even further towards going that route. It looks like it requires an export-than-import though? https://bitwarden.com/help/article/import-from-1password/
Most record types (software license, wireless router, documents, drivers licenses, email accounts, membership, passports, maybe more) don’t exist in Bitwarden. I’m not sure what happens with all of those, maybe transformed into secure note, but again with all of the attachments removed. The lack of categories is also a nuisance for organization, you can create folders but have to manage it manually.
I’m still glad I switched, having bought 1Password on a bunch of platforms and a bunch of paid upgrades before it turned into a subscription. It probably would have been less money if it had been a subscription from the start with all the times I bought it. Maybe it’s irrational, I just don’t like being so dependent on a subscription service, and having a local network sync between my devices was just fine. Same reason Lightroom can pound sand with their $120/year licensing, I’m not going to keep my photo library in something that I just have to keep paying for the rest of my life.
Bitwarden is good enough for me, with 1Password as a subscription you can look at it and realize “this is going to be $36/year forever.” If I spent any time in it, might be worth the expense. I’ve bought a lot of software and I don’t mind paying for good software. But I’ve moved the things that were attachments to an encrypted disk image, and 99% of my password manager interaction is via auto fill so I don’t actually care how polished the UI is.
Family sharing would be a more compelling reason to stick with it if you’re using that.
I haven't had a single bad experience with Bitwarden. I even pay for it now and still run it locally just to support them. Highly recommended if you don't want to be forced into 1Password's service.
Bitwarden and KeePass here, bitwarden is very good. I do not use browser plug-ins so both are kind of the same but bitwarden just wins on the little things.
I haven't had a single bad experience with Bitwarden. I even pay for it now and still run it locally just to support them. Highly recommended if you don't want to be forced into 1Password's service.
Bitwarden and KeePass here, bitwarden is very good. I do not use browser plug-ins so both are kind of the same but bitwarden just wins on the little things.
What am I missing with these paid/subscription services? I personally use KeepassXC (Linux/Android). It's shared via cloud, I have a keyfile off device so I'm satisfied it's pretty much completely locked down. Is it browser integration? Genuinely have no idea why I'd pay for this, or why I'd trust a company with my passwords especially when it's not local.
I wouldn't use any password manager without browser integration. It's the single most critical feature to me in a password manager (ok, beyond secure storage/access). I haven't looked at Keepass lately, but unless it has a browser plugin and automatic sync between all devices (multiple computers, phones, tablets) without me having to roll my own sync solution, it's a non-starter for all but the most hardcore geeks.
Personally I don't think Dropbox/Google drive is rolling your own and works for me.
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Thanks for clarifying! I understand the architecture but perhaps didn't explain it properly in my comment. It does honestly strike me as the best approach given the constraints, but here in Canada almost none of my banks are supported with OAuth flow last time I checked so giving the 3rd party providers my credentials and having them log into the bank both violates the TOS of my bank and is also far less secure than…
Totally fair and reasonable! Too many banks here in the US too that both make it against TOS to get external access to your data and also refuse to offer anything secure like OAuth — extremely frustrating :/ At best you can try to pressure your bank to support OAuth but... we're just small fries.
I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…
It saves me so much time compared to how I used to have to do it — pull out phone, unlock, open Authy, wait forever for it to load, type in code, put phone away…
It’s the little things that all add up. I’m very happy with 1Password — been using it for 10 years, and happy to subscribe, considering it’s probably my most-used utility app.