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Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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And actual sociopaths sleep perfectly fine at night after scamming widows and kicking orphans. What I'd like to know is what the evolutionary reason for this is.

> the evolutionary reason for this

Tribes without sociopaths get killed by other tribes' sociopaths.

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And actual sociopaths sleep perfectly fine at night after scamming widows and kicking orphans. What I'd like to know is what the evolutionary reason for this is.

The real question is why sociopaths aren't more common. Bonobos and naked mole rates are often described as eusocial, but their "communities" are built around matriarchies of sisters , which means there's a strong and simple genetic affiliation. Other proposed examples invariably turn out to have similar orthodox--from a genetic viewpoint--explanations. Humans are an exceedingly peculiar species. But we really unders…

Maybe that'll be an use for a proper AI. Maybe a human cannot take a dispassionate look at humanity and we'd need an eye with an outside perspective. We are afterall made out of meat.

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post #12

And actual sociopaths sleep perfectly fine at night after scamming widows and kicking orphans. What I'd like to know is what the evolutionary reason for this is.

> the evolutionary reason for this Tribes without sociopaths get killed by other tribes' sociopaths.

That's called group selection, which despite 50+ years of effort is an unproven theory that doesn't fit well (though isn't necessarily contradictory) with Darwinian genetic evolution. Every time someone proposes a case example, someone else invariably identifies a simpler, genetic explanation. Humans, of course, are still an enigma.

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post #12

And actual sociopaths sleep perfectly fine at night after scamming widows and kicking orphans. What I'd like to know is what the evolutionary reason for this is.

> the evolutionary reason for this Tribes without sociopaths get killed by other tribes' sociopaths.

Sadly you may have a point

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Impostor syndrome seems like it is seen in people who can self reflect. Now there are people who cannot self reflect, these people are always right and they can't ever make mistakes. They are blind to their own mistakes. If something wrong has happened like in relationship you must have done it. This is how they are wired inside to not see their own faults. These are narcissists.

This implies narcissist never gets impostor syndrome. In other words narcissists are impostors which is actually true.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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They get so close to Dunning Kruger with this line:

> "Brilliant people tend to doubt themselves"

but leave out half the situation.

Yes, real imposters get imposter syndrome when they start to cross the line from "clueless newb" to "expert" in a field. How they react determines if they are an imposter or not.

If they stop and figure out what they do/don't know and what they do/don't need to know, they cross over into expert and hopefully get some humility.

If they don't stop and just plow forward, YES they are an imposter.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Impostor syndrome seems like it is seen in people who can self reflect. Now there are people who cannot self reflect, these people are always right and they can't ever make mistakes. They are blind to their own mistakes. If something wrong has happened like in relationship you must have done it. This is how they are wired inside to not see their own faults. These are narcissists. This implies narcissist never gets im…

I have seen Imposter Syndrome refereed to as "Fragile Narcissism" which only increases the discomfort.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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And actual sociopaths sleep perfectly fine at night after scamming widows and kicking orphans. What I'd like to know is what the evolutionary reason for this is.

Natural selection within a group of animals. Male cats can kill kittens of other cats, so their genes have better chances to exist in the future.
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