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Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by cfgvjkljhgfb »

dfxm12 wrote: post #4
toddh wrote: post #2

I find this strange in that if you have someone watching online you can make sure they watch the ads. Isn't that what they want?

Cable/satellite providers pay the networks for the right to carry their channels. They could find this revenue stream thinning out if the cable/satellite companies can prove that less people are watching via cable/satellite (and they probably can since, by and large, the cable companies also provide Internet service). You are right though, instead of being worried about the old revenue streams, they should find a way…

What the cable companies are worried about is that the networks get all the ad revenue from online viewing that's why they have leaned on Fox to do this.

Their only new revenue model is bandwidth caps

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by phillijw »

sp332 wrote: post #8
cruise02 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 8-day wait is for free streaming options, so it's not throwing money away. If you subscribe to Hulu+ you can still get shows the next day.

The free streaming options still get some money from ads. TPB doesn't. (Another reason TPB's product is better.)

Even the Hulu+ (paid) option also has ads, doesn't it?

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by jordan0day »

sp332 wrote: post #8
cruise02 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 8-day wait is for free streaming options, so it's not throwing money away. If you subscribe to Hulu+ you can still get shows the next day.

The free streaming options still get some money from ads. TPB doesn't. (Another reason TPB's product is better.)

TPB most certainly does "get some money" from ads. The website is plastered with them.

It may not inject ads into the content like an online service like Hulu, but they're certainly making money from advertisers.

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by sp332 »

jordan0day wrote: post #13
sp332 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The free streaming options still get some money from ads. TPB doesn't. (Another reason TPB's product is better.)

TPB most certainly does "get some money" from ads. The website is plastered with them. It may not inject ads into the content like an online service like Hulu, but they're certainly making money from advertisers.

Haha, I keep forgetting that because of AdBlock. Sometimes I visit on a friend's computer and I'm like "whoops, forgot about the nude girls on that page, sorry!"

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by pavel_lishin »

sp332 wrote: post #14
jordan0day wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TPB most certainly does "get some money" from ads. The website is plastered with them. It may not inject ads into the content like an online service like Hulu, but they're certainly making money from advertisers.

Haha, I keep forgetting that because of AdBlock. Sometimes I visit on a friend's computer and I'm like "whoops, forgot about the nude girls on that page, sorry!"

My experience is usually more along the lines of "Jesus christ, how can you stand so much blinky bullshit assaulting your eyes all the time?"

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by X-Istence »

As of right now I am not willing to pay the monthly fee to get cable and the like, since it airs at a certain time of day and I'd need to get a DVR to then grab all the shows and whatnot I'd want.

If I could pay a monthly fee of around $20 to get all of the TV Shows I want to watch at any point in time (not even perpetuity but that would be nice) I would subscribe. Hulu+ comes close, but still doesn't have a lot of the back catalog I am interested in, or is hog tied by the content producers and can't make certain content available until 30 days after it has aired on TV (USA's show Suits for example).

I'd love to watch Game of Thrones from HBO, but the only way I can get access to HBO's online site is to have a monthly subscription through my cable provider... that makes my choice simple, TPB or don't watch them at all... either way HBO loses money.

I don't understand why the content industry doesn't see that if they help Hulu+ succeed that they too can start seeing more of the money from that. Instead of screwing over the "cord-cutters" cut out the middle-man (the cable company) and let me subscribe directly for a low monthly price.

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by sp332 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #9

> Those who enjoy Fox shows such as Family Guy, Glee, or The Simpsons will soon have to wait an extra eight days if they want to watch new episodes online Oh, no, not a whole eight days! I'll literally be a full week behind the latest pop culture phenomenae!

It's slightly more than a week, which means that if you miss an episode, you can't use Hulu to catch up before the next episode airs. It removes an entire (potentially large) use-case.

Re: Fox challenges cord-cutters by sticking TV shows behind paywall

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Post by archangel_one »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #9

> Those who enjoy Fox shows such as Family Guy, Glee, or The Simpsons will soon have to wait an extra eight days if they want to watch new episodes online Oh, no, not a whole eight days! I'll literally be a full week behind the latest pop culture phenomenae!

I think that you're possibly trivialising the effect of people's friends saying "Did you see the latest Family Guy last night" and them having to say "no, it's not going to be on Hulu until next week". The bar to acquiring it via thepiratebay.org is so low that I can imagine the eight-day wait being enough to send some people there instead.
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