35C = 95F for those of us who are in the USA.
A wet-bulb temperature of 35C is equivalent to a heat index of 70C (160F).
The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
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Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we know based on the science we’re not going to see a stabilization in temperatures for at least 30 years under the best scenarios. We should focus on ways to save these lives. Solar powered swamp coolers is what is I’m thinking about. They require water however and that’s going to be as big of a problem as heat. Already is in many places.
Or.. Build more basements and underground shelters.
No, it wouldnt work as the heat would have nowhere to go. And the mid east people didn't do it - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windcatcher
Instead you build and live in highrise/towers - that gives cheap ventilation which is a half the solution.
And I liked the siesta and the following it very active life till deep night in Spain - another natural adaptation to hot climate. It makes for much calmer and steady life rhythm and feeling.
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#23It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
Huh. https://www.weather.gov/hazstat/
That's of course cherry picked. But I think the sucky part is increasing the variance of the temperature distribution. So the hot is hotter and the cold is colder, and both ends really suck.
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Little pedantic, but you meant "Wet-bulb" temperature ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Temperatu... ). I only know from owning a swamp cooler.
It is worth correcting, because I think most people haven't heard of wet-bulb, just as the methods and formulas that give us humidex "feels-like" temperatures aren't common knowledge. A lot of ways we measure and describe the human experience of humidity and temperature are not standardized from location to location, so the non-local methods and terminology can be arcane for anyone who isn't a meteorologist.
I never heard of wet-bulb temp until carrot weather included it in a recent update.
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#25It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
We can distribute blankets and warm clothes to practically anywhere at scale. You can't scale air conditioners the same.
Your "homework" doesn't matter if super heat waves are a new phenomenon since data was collected.
You can't even glean anything useful from total deaths of heat vs cold. You'd need an equal number of people in equally hostile hot/cold environments of the same size. And even then there's still so many other variables can contribute to a result.
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#2635C = 95F for those of us who are in the USA.
Wet bulb 35°C, which feels like 160°F dry bulb for those of us who are in the USA with varying amounts of water in the air. > The wet-bulb temperature is defined as the temperature of a parcel of air cooled to saturation (100% relative humidity) by the evaporation of water into it ... The theoretical limit to human survival for more than a few hours in the shade, even with unlimited water, is 35 °C (95 °F) – theoreti…
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Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#27It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
What numbers are you looking at where cold kills more people than heat?
Re: The emergence of heat and humidity too severe for human tolerance (2020)
#28It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
If you clicked on the link you are commenting about, you would have learn that we are talking about 35°C wet bulb. Which will kill you, whatever your age, your health, or what you try to do to overcome it. Basically, without air conditioning, so without energy, you are dead.
Cold, instead, will not kill you if you are able to cover yourself with a sufficient coat and/or you are able to start some fire.
Most places in the world, even in rich countries, neither have air conditioning nor sufficient energy power plants to cool everyone.
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#30It's hilarious to me that people somehow think hot is MUCH more dangerous than cold. If you do any homework you will see which end results in more deaths.
Well, one can warm up by eatnig lots of food, wearing other critters' skins, and burning stuff; all of which are stone-age (or earlier) technologies. Cooling down requires air conditioning (modern tech) or access to natural cold water (privilege)
Or digging a hole or holes, and running air and or water through them, like has been done for thousands of years in very hot places.