Is it possible to install Elementary's DE on Ubuntu?
Elementary OS 6 Odin
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#102Are there still Pinebook Pro builds available?
Yes, still experimental. We recently merged in the ability to cross-compile Flatpak apps across x86 and ARM, so hopefully that leads to a more official status soon.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this is exactly why some people prefer MacOS, which eOS is trying to emulate.
MacOS still has anachronistic design elements. My least favorite was the Dashboard, which long outstayed it's welcome...
I prefer the Dashboard to its kind-of replacement, whatever they call the slidey-out widget sidebar thing you get when you click on the clock (which, unrelated to the comparison between those two since the Dashboard's invocation wasn't exactly sensible, either—what the hell?)
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#104I don't get how an OS is released and performance isn't mentioned.
I think each OS release must include data about the performance (Speed and resources at steady state).
We want performant and lean OS's.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
> See: https://theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2021/02/11/response-to-fla ... Everything in that reference basically says "yep the criticism is valid" and in a few cases the author expands on that with "but it's ok because..." and then lists various reasons why it's fine that it's still a problem but that's it's being worked on. They also had to correct a good chunk of just outright incorrect information they were supplyin…
> Why not have flatpak prompt for permissions as they're used, e.g.: "This app wants to open your home directory" rather than at install-time. That would make it abundantly clearer to the end users this is aimed at. I'm going out on a limb and guessing that it is because that's what is done in mobile, and it's usage in mobile has re-taught everyone the lesson that constant dialog prompts just train users to click thr…
While that's true, at least some users are protected. I've never really bought into that particular criticism of mobile. Users are going to click through regardless until they've been burned a bunch of times. The users who pay attention to those prompts are the ones you want to benefit, and hopefully eventually those other users will be trained into the safer behaviour. (Yeah I hear myself)
As it stands though, flatpak out of the box has all the security issues of running old unpatched systems in order to mostly have compatible runtime environments, which, in my experience, don't actually buy me that much. The few times my distro hasn't already shipped a copy of an application, AppImage, Flatpak, or Snap haven't had the solution either.
This entire experiment we're doing with "ship the developer's box" as the new standard of software delivery and the different warring philosophies employed to turn that into a reality are interesting. My money is on the least secure, least safe, least functional, but best marketed thing winning out.
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> You get used to the dock real quick. What's the connection between the dock and minimizing windows? I use a WM with a dock and that supports minimized windows just fine.
If the app is in focus and you click on it on the dock, it minimizes itself. You can also do Super+H. Personally I put it back to "Windows" layout (min/max/close on the right), even though I mostly use Super+H.
Ah, okay. Thanks. That's not as bad as I thought, using the click on the dock (that would otherwise do nothing) is clever. Thinking about it, my dock does this as well :)
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#107Elementary is starting to actually look nicer than macOS. There's still some janky details here and there, but the overall design language is very nice.
It's a sign of how crappy mainstream UI design has gotten that the thing that is really drawing me to elementary OS are the gradients, shadows, and edges that give its UI sense of depth -- not the Linux underpinnings, multitouch, or "App Store". It makes the UI 1000x easier to grok at a glance than the flat crap Microsoft and Apple have been pushing out over the past few years, and just plain looks good! I'd love for…
pop os puts a big ass orange line around the active window. its probably a bit gaudy but i love it.
it makes it so much easier to see where you're at, even at it the corner of your eye. i don't know if i could go back to other os's where the active window only gets a slightly darker drop shadow than the other windows.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the desktop front, I've been hearing about virtualizing windows on Linux with a framebuffer that maps directly to the GPU. Then you get to keep something like 95% performance. I forget what it's called, but I remember seeing a subreddit for it. FBIO?
I wasn't talking about performance, I was talking about compatibility with games. Sorry if that wasn't clear; I've edited. Valve has been doing amazing things in this space, but for now my understanding is that it's more of a "most games will work pretty well" scenario, which is not really what I want for my primary games machine.
Well thats the perk, you get games compatibility. Windows runs in a window with direct access to the GPU. I primary Windows because of games and music software, and I'm looking forward to trying it out.
As another comment points out, its called VFIO. From that subreddit: "VFIO stands for Virtual Function I/O. VFIO is a device driver that is used to assign devices to virtual machines. One of the most common uses of vfio is setting up a virtual machine with full access to a dedicated GPU. This enables near-bare-metal gaming performance in a Windows VM, offering a great alternative to dual-booting"
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm, VNC would normally be the way to handle that on Linux? If you have a session going and fire up your VNC server of choice, you should be able to connect to it from another machine (I can't say I do that much personally, though I did set up a little fanless box as dashboard kiosk that way for my team a while back).
Last I checked, VNC wasn’t really comparable to RDP in terms of performance. I work in a remote session basically all day long and it’s suitable for graphics and video among everything else. Has that changed recently?
No, it's not nearly as performant, that's for sure. I haven't used it personally, but there is Xrdp[1] which might be better for more serious usage.
1: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-xrdp-on-ubuntu-20-0...
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#110Never had any problem with them however there were some serious usability issues like the AltTab behavior, absence of mouse focus options etc etc. I also remember the animations were laggy. Switched to KDE and it feels like the full package