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Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I've been using it since the weekend and it's so great! My favourite feature is that it's all flatpak, allowing smartphone-like permissions for each desktop app — both first-party and any third-party from Flathub. I like it way more than snap and am glad there's an Ubuntu fork that works so wonderfully with it.

Do any of the Flatpak advocates have a response to this security criticism?

Eg - https://flatkill.org/2020/

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I have tried Linux desktop. One of the couple things I can’t get over with is remote. It seems there’s no straight and reliable way to remote to the same session of the host desktop. In addition, Windows RDP can also reliably adjust to client screen setup.

Hmm, VNC would normally be the way to handle that on Linux? If you have a session going and fire up your VNC server of choice, you should be able to connect to it from another machine (I can't say I do that much personally, though I did set up a little fanless box as dashboard kiosk that way for my team a while back).

My experience is that VNC won’t remote to the same session. And it can’t adjust to client resolution, so not very useful to me.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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The main things keeping me from using Linux as a daily driver are: 1) My personal desktop has Windows for games 2) My laptops (personal and work) are Macs because Apple simply makes the best laptops When I've dual-booted in the past it's been a huge pain, and I didn't end up bothering to switch to Linux very often in practice anyway. Linux laptops exist, but they tend to be spotty in terms of build-quality and power.…

On the desktop front, I've been hearing about virtualizing windows on Linux with a framebuffer that maps directly to the GPU. Then you get to keep something like 95% performance. I forget what it's called, but I remember seeing a subreddit for it. FBIO?

I wasn't talking about performance, I was talking about compatibility with games. Sorry if that wasn't clear; I've edited.

Valve has been doing amazing things in this space, but for now my understanding is that it's more of a "most games will work pretty well" scenario, which is not really what I want for my primary games machine.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Big fan of eOS. Congrats on the launch!

I always wondered how an open-source project develops from scratch so many different apps (e.g. Web, Mail, Calendar, etc). Why not focusing more on the OS rather than wasting resources on apps that there are mature open-source alternatives (e.g. Thunderbird, Firefox, etc)?

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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You get used to the dock real quick. Or just install Elementary Tweaks.

> You get used to the dock real quick. What's the connection between the dock and minimizing windows? I use a WM with a dock and that supports minimized windows just fine.

If the app is in focus and you click on it on the dock, it minimizes itself. You can also do Super+H.

Personally I put it back to "Windows" layout (min/max/close on the right), even though I mostly use Super+H.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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As someone who's released commercial software on linux before - having only 3 solutions to target is actually pretty delightful (We still build .deb and .rpm as well, so 5 really, after snap, flatpak and appimage) Plus I find the general sandbox approach to be a LOT more stable - distro upgrades rarely causes issues, and dependencies are much easier to wrangle. Definitely still some hiccups, but overall it feels like…

> As someone who's released commercial software on linux before - having only 3 solutions to target is actually pretty delightful I think that speaks to a particularly huge failure of Linux Desktop more than anything else.

In what sense? If you mean the fact there are multiple solutions, I don't think it's anything to do with Linux Desktop. I don't think that's even to do with Linux. More the plethora of alternatives in general when using FOSS. But that to some is its strength, not failure.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Can't say I've stumbled upon a lot of desktop apps (not terminal utilities) that are not on Flathub. The list is pretty long: https://flathub.org/apps/category/All From my experience, most of the popular proprietary ones (think: Slack, Discord, Spotify, whatever) are distributed both as a flatpak and as a snap, while more niche desktop apps are usually flatpak-exclusive (out of those options).

> Can't say I've stumbled upon a lot of desktop apps (not terminal utilities) that are not on Flathub. Perhaps you just don't use that many things that aren't really popular or well known? I can't find PuTTY and KeePass (though obviously there are alternatives in those cases), applications that both have Linux versions and that I use every day (and aren't even that unknown). Also, unfortunately the limitations of Fla…

What is the use case for running PuTTY on Linux? I'm curious.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I have tried Linux desktop. One of the couple things I can’t get over with is remote. It seems there’s no straight and reliable way to remote to the same session of the host desktop. In addition, Windows RDP can also reliably adjust to client screen setup.

Xrdp can be configured to do this, we have it setup this way for our jump boxes.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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post #33

Wow looks great. This fell off my radar for a bit, looking pretty nice now. Not gonna lie, having Gnome + Flatpak on Ubuntu LTS base already puts it near the top of my list, the styling and added usability features puts it over the top. Ubuntu LTS base is also great for developers, as it seems most cloud images these days are just that. I've tried installing/building tools on other distros that I like more than Ubunt…

FYI, it doesn't use Gnome. It uses it's own DE based on Vala/GTK+/libmutter.
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