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Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by solarkraft »

wlesieutre wrote: post #6

That trackpad gesture support where it actually tracks with your finger movement looks really nice. Is this typical in Linux distros now, or is elementary going above and beyond the rest with that?

It’s not typical at all. Only in the recently released version 40 Gnome has shipped what feels like a prototype of this.

Before then only the obscure Wayfire had a similar gesture for desktop switching (actually good) and there were a few projects hacking it up with simulated keyboard shortcuts (obviously not the same at all).

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by input_sh »

Flex247A wrote: post #13

Elementary is really great. I have to admit that no other OS (other than alpine/void/arch) can run smoothly on my Intel Atom N450 netbook.

That's precisely what got me into Linux desktop as well. After trying out dozens or so distros, my beaten up Asus laptop kept running absurdly hot (like 80 degrees celsius). elementary OS 0.2 (Luna) was lightweight enough that it was the first distro I've tried that I could actually use as a daily driver.

I've been using elementary OS since. I've tried some other distros, but those experiences usually ended up with me trying to recreate elementary feeling, failing, and then returning back to elementary OS a couple of weeks later.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by marcodiego »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #9
marcodiego wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flatpaks, as well as snaps and appimages to a lesser extent, are a true godsend to the linux desktop. I can finally have a stable system and software released yesterday.

Unfortunately each has its own drawbacks and, in typical Linux Desktop fashion, it's 3 fragmented solutions to roughly the same problem with none of them being standard or enjoying a particularly de-facto status. The end result being that you can't get everything in any one of them, and often can't get a particular application in any of them.

Hi AnIdiotOnTheNet! I really appreciate your comments against linux. I'm true. Since I don't have much knowledge about NT's strengths, the comments I like the most are the ones where you highlight advantages of the NT kernel over linux.

It's been some time since I last read anything like that from you. Would you mind to comment if ebpf usage and the possible new futex2 syscall helps to close the gap between linux and NT with regards to async primitives?

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by horsawlarway »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #9
marcodiego wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flatpaks, as well as snaps and appimages to a lesser extent, are a true godsend to the linux desktop. I can finally have a stable system and software released yesterday.

Unfortunately each has its own drawbacks and, in typical Linux Desktop fashion, it's 3 fragmented solutions to roughly the same problem with none of them being standard or enjoying a particularly de-facto status. The end result being that you can't get everything in any one of them, and often can't get a particular application in any of them.

As someone who's released commercial software on linux before - having only 3 solutions to target is actually pretty delightful (We still build .deb and .rpm as well, so 5 really, after snap, flatpak and appimage)

Plus I find the general sandbox approach to be a LOT more stable - distro upgrades rarely causes issues, and dependencies are much easier to wrangle.

Definitely still some hiccups, but overall it feels like it's moving in a direction that I find easier to work with - both as a user and a developer.

Plus the markets are generally fairly large - sure I still dip into aur every now and then, but I mostly find the "Software I need at work" stuff available

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by unicornporn »

drcongo wrote: post #17

Elementary is starting to actually look nicer than macOS. There's still some janky details here and there, but the overall design language is very nice.

As long as you only use GTK apps that is... Half (?) Of the apps I need are Qt and they will look out of place.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by temp8964 »

I have tried Linux desktop. One of the couple things I can’t get over with is remote. It seems there’s no straight and reliable way to remote to the same session of the host desktop. In addition, Windows RDP can also reliably adjust to client screen setup.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

input_sh wrote: post #19
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately each has its own drawbacks and, in typical Linux Desktop fashion, it's 3 fragmented solutions to roughly the same problem with none of them being standard or enjoying a particularly de-facto status. The end result being that you can't get everything in any one of them, and often can't get a particular application in any of them.

Can't say I've stumbled upon a lot of desktop apps (not terminal utilities) that are not on Flathub. The list is pretty long: https://flathub.org/apps/category/All From my experience, most of the popular proprietary ones (think: Slack, Discord, Spotify, whatever) are distributed both as a flatpak and as a snap, while more niche desktop apps are usually flatpak-exclusive (out of those options).

> Can't say I've stumbled upon a lot of desktop apps (not terminal utilities) that are not on Flathub.

Perhaps you just don't use that many things that aren't really popular or well known? I can't find PuTTY and KeePass (though obviously there are alternatives in those cases), applications that both have Linux versions and that I use every day (and aren't even that unknown).

Also, unfortunately the limitations of Flatpak mean even if what you want is there, say Wireshark, it often won't have full functionality because it is impossible to give it the permissions it needs. In Wireshark's case, it can't actually capture any packets. If you want to actually use it you'll still need to resort to a different installation method.

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