Firefox 91 • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by jefftk » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:03 PM UTC

Nice! They've added support for:

    try {
      foo();
    } catch (e) {
      throw new Error("details", {cause: e});
    }

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by q3k » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:03 PM UTC

nanis wrote: post #4

> HTTPS-First Policy: Firefox Private Browsing windows now attempt to make all connections to websites secure, and fall back to insecure connections only when websites do not support it. Hmmmm ... Does this mean "HTTPS Everywhere" is no longer needed?[1] And, of course, it freaks out with the previously saved self-signed cert installed on my WiFi router. ... sigh [1]: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere

I hope it's not.

The assumption that whatever is being served on :443 is HTTPS with the same content as what is being served on :80 HTTP is wrong. It might practically be true >99% of the time, but some websites will still break for no good reason.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:04 PM UTC

toyg wrote: post #6

nanis wrote: post #4

> HTTPS-First Policy: Firefox Private Browsing windows now attempt to make all connections to websites secure, and fall back to insecure connections only when websites do not support it. Hmmmm ... Does this mean "HTTPS Everywhere" is no longer needed?[1] And, of course, it freaks out with the previously saved self-signed cert installed on my WiFi router. ... sigh [1]: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere

> Firefox Private Browsing windows now attempt to make all connections to websites secure Ah yes, I don't want anyone to eavesdrop on my pr0n! Edit: to clarify, I find it weird that this has been limited to Private Browsing, when most people don't even use it for anything but adult websites. The feature is good and should be available for regular browsing too.

Do you have traffic that you are okay with people watching? Because I personally have exactly zero traffic that I want my ISP to know about (and then resell that info to ad companies, ex. https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608352/internet-privacy-a...).

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by Milner08 » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

xqcgrek2 wrote: post #14

I'm so glad I switched to Brave.

I've never heard a good thing about brave... What makes you prefer it over Firefox?

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by Someone1234 » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

Tangent: Windows single sign-on is kind of broken. So if I hit a site that supports it, it will automatically try to log me in via my machine without asking causing my 2FA to fire and won't show me a login screen until that 2FA check succeeds/fails. If I want to sign in via any other Microsoft Account, I first need to 2FA my machine's Microsoft Account just to get the ability to login via a completely different account.

Turning it on/off isn't a solution, because then you'll lose the ability to use Windows sign-on when you do want it. The login flow itself is just poorly designed.

Although my bigger pet peeve by far right now is that every time I login to Microsoft Teams, it gives me a prompt ("Allow my organization to manage my device") that would essentially allow my employer to take over control of my personal machine (default: On, also a dark-pattern "Yes" box).

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by joenathanone » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

lordnacho wrote: post #17

I have to admit the only real reason I'm on FF is tree style tabs. All the tabs on the left of the screen, with little markers to expand or minimize the tree. No tabs along the top (needs a tiny bit of css), plus I can customize the look. I tried to get Chrome to do this but nothing was satisfying. Now it's not like FF is inferior in all other ways, it is actually a pretty good experience. But TST is the big one for…

Microsoft’s new Chromium based Edge has a vertical tabs option.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

Curious about Total Cookie Protection. Unfortunately, the link is broken. Hopefully we’re getting a simple whitelisting interface built into the browser.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by brink » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

So much negativity. Just here to report that I am a happy Firefox user, no complaints here.

Thank you Mozilla for making a browser that respects me.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:06 PM UTC

dbg31415 wrote: post #8

Shame, nothing about performance yet. When you run a Zoom or Google Meet call on Firefox it uses 40x the battery of Safari.

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Re: Firefox 91

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Post by Rd6n6 » Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:06 PM UTC

igetspam wrote: post #20

dbg31415 wrote: post #8

Shame, nothing about performance yet. When you run a Zoom or Google Meet call on Firefox it uses 40x the battery of Safari.

Is that a literal 40x? I haven't used the web version of zoom in a long time and my Thinkpad is always plugged in but I'm genuinely curious about your data. What OS? Plugins?

Well, if you get 6 hours of browsing in safari on a charge, then by this math (40x difference) you would get about 9 minutes in Firefox and you would probably burn yourself from the heat given off