It's weird how directly the incentive is to increase your carbon footprint. They'll essentially pay you more for contributing to congestion and pollution.
Because employees in the office are more productive.
Google employees who work from home could lose money
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#32I think this is making a whole lot of out nothing, or at least not much. Google would determine your pay based on your work location, regardless of whether that's your home or the office. As a result people that lived far from the office in a typically less expensive area could see their pay drop.
Gitlab implements this compensation model openly(to the point where there is a calculator for it!) - I don't remember how well it was received when it was first announced, but looks like Google is applying a similar idea.
The calculator is no longer public.
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#33Turns out competing with the whole world and not who is ready to relocate to an extremely expensive area of the world brings downsides, who knew. Time to realize that this 'work from home' push will lead to more globalization, and more loss of wealth / quality of life for the people of the West.
I think we'll see more globalization, but I think people overstate the level of the transition:
1) Done well, remote work is at least as effective as office-based. However, my experience is that most companies aren't doing remote work remotely well, even 15 months in.
2) Globalization has to do with more than just being remote. An issue we still haven't solved are time zones.
I think the first move we'll see is from San Fran, Mountain View, etc. to cheaper parts of the US, closer to food production, and with more available land.
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#34And they no longer need a desk in an expensive office building, or free food. Triple win.
Or massages, child care, game rooms, or any of the other ridiculous perks. The company could start rolling those back if enough people wfh.
The reason why they have it all there is specifically to abuse your work hours. Hungry, don't have any food? Go back to the office real quick to grab a snack on a Sunday. And well you might have just figured out something so you might end up back at your desk.
There are enough studies on why those campuses are designed that way. The convenience is designed at making sure you spend more time at work.
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#35Will they adjust Urs Holzle’s compensation for working from New Zealand?
Urs is Google employee #8. He is so rich I doubt he is compensated in any way that's meaningful to him today.
He probably only works to have a seat at the table and a say in how the future of technology is built.
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#36It's weird how directly the incentive is to increase your carbon footprint. They'll essentially pay you more for contributing to congestion and pollution.
They'll essentially pay you more for being more productive.
There are very few people that are more productive out of the office.
Google/Facebook/Apple have the stats ... if they want you back in the office it's because they've seen productivity go down.
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#37I can see why you’d pay a remote staff member differently from an on-prem staff member. As others have said if you’re hiring remote then your talent pool is effectively the whole world, so price competition is fiercer.
But if everyone is remote or everyone is on-prem, then location-dependent pricing is complete nonsense. The employees are all still providing the same value to the company. Claiming that you can’t pay someone as much because they live in some rural town somewhere is just the company finding an excuse to keep a larger share of the value created by that employee.
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#38Endless loop: you need a higher salary to live where you have space to work from home.
Re: Google employees who work from home could lose money
#39It's weird how directly the incentive is to increase your carbon footprint. They'll essentially pay you more for contributing to congestion and pollution.
They'll essentially pay you more for being more productive. There are very few people that are more productive out of the office. Google/Facebook/Apple have the stats ... if they want you back in the office it's because they've seen productivity go down.
Where is the data that shows this? I've worked remotely since 2015 and I don't buy this.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
They'll essentially pay you more for being more productive. There are very few people that are more productive out of the office. Google/Facebook/Apple have the stats ... if they want you back in the office it's because they've seen productivity go down.
Where is the data that shows this? I've worked remotely since 2015 and I don't buy this.
Also if they’re suddenly paying more for productivity: how do you explain the rise of the open office- proven over and over to decrease productivity?