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Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by [deleted] »

pjmlp wrote: post #58
cookiengineer wrote: post #16

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

No, I see it as refusal to learn how to use bookmarks. I fail to see how what is so hard regarding organizing information in folders per subject, when in doubt choose the more generic one. Firefox also allows me to easily search for bookmarks, and has a quite nice bookmark manager. Using bookmarks since 1995 across different kinds of browsers, always migrating them along.

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Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by bodge5000 »

pjmlp wrote: post #90
bodge5000 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bookmarks are for medium-long term storage. If theres something you don't need right now but might need later on in the week, are you really going to put it in with all your other junk? Of course you could argue that better organisation and regular cleaning of your bookmarks is needed, but at that point it becomes a job in of itself. I'm also not sure bookmarks are something you learn to use. If you've ever used any…

Yes, there is a to read later folder for that.

Yeh they have this feature built into chrome. I liked it, in fact I liked it so much that I kept using it, and once again it became an unmanagable mess that I would avoid for things that are actually want to read later. Over time, this would become for things I kind of want to read later. At this point, I don't even remember the last time I used it.

Tabs work because whenever you are using the browser, they're always in front of you. If you have too many and you know you won't go back and read the next thing thats important to you, you just go through and trim the old ones down (which, as a side note, is much easier than deleting bookmarks).

Is it a discipline problem? Absolutely, but for so many people, myself included, tab discipline is not particularly high on the endless todo list.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by nextaccountic »

pjmlp wrote: post #58
cookiengineer wrote: post #16

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

No, I see it as refusal to learn how to use bookmarks. I fail to see how what is so hard regarding organizing information in folders per subject, when in doubt choose the more generic one. Firefox also allows me to easily search for bookmarks, and has a quite nice bookmark manager. Using bookmarks since 1995 across different kinds of browsers, always migrating them along.

I want to search the contents (inside the html) of web pages in my bookmarks, and not just bookmark titles, urls or tags.

Do you know a bookmark system that does that?

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#104

Post by Macha »

pjmlp wrote: post #92
Macha wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Bookmarks fail for medium term usage. There's some research material for a doc or PR I'm actively working on - Why bookmark, catalogue and eventually prune if I'm not going to need it past tomorrow? 2. Bookmarks don't keep page state. As more apps go the PWA route, not all of them have URIs that lead to your preferred state. Even just stuff like expanding/hide comment threads is a start, not to mention things like…

1. Ongoing activities folder 2. Neither do tabs across process restarts or devices.

> 1. Ongoing activities folder

So.... my current tabs list? Why spend the extra button clicks to explicitly save and delete it again

> 2. Neither do tabs across process restarts or devices.

So once a week my tab based setup gets reduced to the level of bookmark functionality, and hence I should just use bookmarks? I don't agree.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by cmehdy »

m_t wrote: post #52
OJFord wrote: post #27

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Another option is Sidebery, seemed to be the only maintained one when I last looked. It also supports 'panels' - 'tabs' to the sidebar that switch between sets of tabs. You can assign a panel to a FF container.

This looks like a good replacement of the old tab group Firefox used to have. The fact we can assign them a container is really promising, I'll give it a go!

I found this[0] minimal style (not by me) particularly useful, with auto-folding and a thin visual footprint.

[0] https://github.com/ongots/firefox-sidebery-minimal-style (screenshots further down the page)

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#106

Post by Freak_NL »

brongondwana wrote: post #79

I am very much the opposite! I close my entire browser at least once per day - every tab closed. I have about 10 sites in my bookmarks toolbar - which are basically the key sites I use for work, and that's it. If I have too many tabs open, I lose context. Ditto with terminals - they ALL get shut down multiple times per day. Reset to zero, spin up state, do task, reset back to zero. I treat it like a commercial kitche…

Same. I usually open our company's MatterMost in the first tab when I start (the only one I leave open all day), and will clear out anything else if I'm done with some task that required them.

If I want to read something later I'll find it with DuckDuckGo or just the browser history. If I use it often the address bar will prioritize it so even just the first letter of the URL will show it at the top of the list. For sites that I search frequently I use DuckDuckGo's bangs directly in the address bar: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by mountainb »

Use notetaking software instead. Just as searchable, can add context. But also most web content is not worth bookmarking and will be link rotted in an eyeblink anyway. If you are serious about organizing your knowledge do not externalize it to the flighty whims of the web.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by tsjq »

brongondwana wrote: post #79

I am very much the opposite! I close my entire browser at least once per day - every tab closed. I have about 10 sites in my bookmarks toolbar - which are basically the key sites I use for work, and that's it. If I have too many tabs open, I lose context. Ditto with terminals - they ALL get shut down multiple times per day. Reset to zero, spin up state, do task, reset back to zero. I treat it like a commercial kitche…

Nice. I am able to relate this with the book : organize your mind organize your life . https://www.amazon.in/Organize-your-Mind-Life/dp/9351060640

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by maigret »

Macha wrote: post #104
pjmlp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Ongoing activities folder 2. Neither do tabs across process restarts or devices.

> 1. Ongoing activities folder So.... my current tabs list? Why spend the extra button clicks to explicitly save and delete it again > 2. Neither do tabs across process restarts or devices. So once a week my tab based setup gets reduced to the level of bookmark functionality, and hence I should just use bookmarks? I don't agree.

You’d be saving energy by closing more tabs indeed.
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