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Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by unicornporn »

DrSiemer wrote: post #24

The new Chrome tab group is not great, but it does help. One group for things that are being processed (handle asap), one group for "stuff to check", one for each project I'm working on and one for entertainment. All with short names and their own color, so it takes up a minimum of space. The remaining space is for temporary tabs. Larger temporary side quests get their own window and will be either closed or moved in…

» It's still not as good as Firefox's nested Tree Style Tab once was (and might be again?) but I'm kind of locked into Chrome at this point.

What terrible being is locking people into Chrome?

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by wazoox »

Tree style tab for me. Makes it easy to keep hundreds of tabs open and organised. I generally have about 40 open on my laptop, and between 50 and 100 on my work PC (various documentation websites, applications, etc). Not a generational thing, I'm 50.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by anewone »

thefr0g wrote: post #70

I don't get why people litter their browser with tabs. I pretty sure I never used more than 30 at the same time. I just close them if I don't need them anymore. At the latest when I can't read the titles anymore the garbage collection runs. If I might still need it I just bookmark the page. (It helps to sort your bookmarks and have proper syncing)

One problem for me is opening more interesting links than I have time to get to. Bookmarks don't really solve the core problem of not properly managing my time. When I used to use RSS, I would have many feeds racking up dozens of unread and potentially interesting posts as a sort of todo list which I never got around to clearing. So I decided to forget about RSS and try not to worry about catching every single item out there.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by dredmorbius »

edoceo wrote: post #63
dredmorbius wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incentives misallignment is a major component of my disillusionment. It's possible that a non-Google vendor might see the approach as a differentiator. Of these, Mozilla seems to be footgunning itself with exceptional facility, Apple would serve only its own hardware platforms in all likelihood, and the remaining players (KDE / Webkit) are so small as to be utterly outclassed. The remaining possibility would be a gen…

Let's work on Servo! It's not completely dead. Super users building a browser for super-users. Does anyone know how to build a modular plugin sub-system?

TIL. Links?

This? https://servo.org/

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by globular-toast »

cookiengineer wrote: post #16

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

Maybe. For some reason many people just don't use bookmarks at all. The question is why don't they use them. Have they tried but found it broken? Or have they never tried?

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by Vinnl »

globular-toast wrote: post #85
cookiengineer wrote: post #16

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

Maybe. For some reason many people just don't use bookmarks at all. The question is why don't they use them. Have they tried but found it broken? Or have they never tried?

I don't use them because I have to know which pages are important enough to bookmark when I come across them first, rather than when I need them later.

Usually I rely on finding something in my history. If I need to get around to it at some point, I'll keep the tab open and I'll get around to it when (if ever) I'm closing a bunch of tabs in a row, which takes relatively little effort. If I bookmark it, it'll just sit there and I'll never think of it again.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by globular-toast »

I have a strong tendency for things to disappear if they are kept around for too long. This happens in real life too. When my girlfriend and I moved house last year we started describing things as "gone" because we kept finding that whole boxes or pieces of furniture became completely invisible to us if they had been in one place too long. The same thing happens with browser tabs. Sometimes I'll leave one open "for later" and then I'll realise sometimes a week later that the tab is still open. I wonder, do these loads of tabs people have the same problem as me, or can they see the tabs and "later" really just hasn't arrived yet?

In emacs I have a completely different approach to "tabs". I actually don't have visible tabs at all and "midnight-mode" automatically garbage collects unused buffers in the middle of the night. That way I only ever have stuff open that I am actually using. And, think about it, you only need to know what "tabs" are available at the moment you are switching, why are they visible at all other times? I wonder if such an approach could work for web browsers too?

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by bodge5000 »

pjmlp wrote: post #58
cookiengineer wrote: post #16

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

No, I see it as refusal to learn how to use bookmarks. I fail to see how what is so hard regarding organizing information in folders per subject, when in doubt choose the more generic one. Firefox also allows me to easily search for bookmarks, and has a quite nice bookmark manager. Using bookmarks since 1995 across different kinds of browsers, always migrating them along.

Bookmarks are for medium-long term storage. If theres something you don't need right now but might need later on in the week, are you really going to put it in with all your other junk?

Of course you could argue that better organisation and regular cleaning of your bookmarks is needed, but at that point it becomes a job in of itself.

I'm also not sure bookmarks are something you learn to use. If you've ever used any file system before, you've pretty much got the hang of it, its not a terribly difficult concept to grasp. Maybe a refusal to make use of bookmarks, I'd disagree thats the solution but it certainly makes more sense

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by Vinnl »

m_t wrote: post #52
OJFord wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another option is Sidebery, seemed to be the only maintained one when I last looked. It also supports 'panels' - 'tabs' to the sidebar that switch between sets of tabs. You can assign a panel to a FF container.

This looks like a good replacement of the old tab group Firefox used to have. The fact we can assign them a container is really promising, I'll give it a go!

For me it replaced both my tab groups extension and vertical tabs extension. It's a godsend, although a little bit buggy every now and then.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Post by pjmlp »

bodge5000 wrote: post #88
pjmlp wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I see it as refusal to learn how to use bookmarks. I fail to see how what is so hard regarding organizing information in folders per subject, when in doubt choose the more generic one. Firefox also allows me to easily search for bookmarks, and has a quite nice bookmark manager. Using bookmarks since 1995 across different kinds of browsers, always migrating them along.

Bookmarks are for medium-long term storage. If theres something you don't need right now but might need later on in the week, are you really going to put it in with all your other junk? Of course you could argue that better organisation and regular cleaning of your bookmarks is needed, but at that point it becomes a job in of itself. I'm also not sure bookmarks are something you learn to use. If you've ever used any…

Yes, there is a to read later folder for that.
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