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Done with YC: Age Discrimination

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Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

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post #52

Technology startups have a mandatory narrative of "someone young, cool, smart and with a great idea...". Anyone past 38 (if I remember correctly PG wrote 38 is the cut off date for founders) is too old for said narrative. (BTW: I´m 43) Maybe you should game the system and match with a young and cool co-founder that does the PR part.

Paul Graham didn’t even start Y combinator until he was 41!

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#112
post #88

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Pretty interesting that a YC person would come out and label this "indignation + sensationalism". It is neither. It's someone (me) sharing an experience and a personal decision while --if you actually read my post-- praising YC for all the good they do. My only intent is to perhaps shed some light on the plight of older engineers in the technology ecosystem. Change the subject if you want. I could not care less. How…

Just a reminder. The title of your post is: "Done with YC: Age Discrimination"

And no part of that implies any emotion or sentiment at all. What you are reading into is is your own bias.

It almost like a title:subtitle structure. You read the content to understand it. The title simply says something like "I am no longer interested in YC. I want to discuss age discrimination". It does not say "Those f--ker at YC are biggoted blah, blah who discriminate against older engineers and because of that I've had enough and I am done with them". That's what you and dang seem to want to read into it. Well, you are both wrong. It's just a title. No emotion or implications being made other than those made in the mind of the reader.

Judging a book by the cover, are we?

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#113

The video chat or video clip easily leads to age discrimination. This is widespread in the tech industry. I had a team of three, aged 50+, lined up to apply for a grant for a crypto project. When I saw requirement for video recording of team, I knew it was not worth any more effort. It was not a video Q&A, it was a recorded video statement for the application. Of course it is racist eerrrr age-ist

A friend of mine, my age, had problem landing interviews. When he did the an uncomfortable pattern emerged. He did very well until the video interview. After that, crickets, no calls at all. In one case he had no less than five phone (no video) interviews as he moved through the hiring funnel in this company. Code interviews, business interviews, etc. He was even told he was a great candidate. After the video interview, not even one smoke signal. Nothing.

After months of frustration he decided to dye his hair to make it far less gray. He didn't like to do that at all, but he felt he has no choice. Not long after that he told me the difference in treatment was so obvious it just floored him. His video interviews led to follow-up interviews and he finally landed a job.

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#114
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"Names imply age" is an obvious red herring - if you had listed names for that reason, you would have said so and explained the connection. Yes, we're familiar with your history of creating accounts on HN and also your pattern of race-war trolling and other unsavory stuff.

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Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#115
post #87

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> They generally give feedback on your application. AFAIK this is absolutely not true.

That’s a shame. I know several founders who email specific partners who have in experience in their industry and they seem to get more personalized rejections

Regular applicants definetly don't get this. YC says as much in the rejection email.

I guess it is all really easy when you are already connected.

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#116
post #82

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"Names imply age" is an obvious red herring - if you had listed names for that reason, you would have said so and explained the connection. Yes, we're familiar with your history of creating accounts on HN and also your pattern of race-war trolling and other unsavory stuff.

1. That people choose certain names during certain generations is just a fact (alternatively: distraction maneuver... from my side... for what reason?) and

2. I don't explain everything I say, yes, sorry.

3. Nice that you recognize me based on my style - Be careful: There are others, too. I am not an as active individual on Hacker News as you may think.

You can even induce my age & race: Certainly and easily: I am a middle-aged white man.

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#117
post #82

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"Names imply age" is an obvious red herring - if you had listed names for that reason, you would have said so and explained the connection. Yes, we're familiar with your history of creating accounts on HN and also your pattern of race-war trolling and other unsavory stuff.

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Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#118
post #35

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As an older founder, it's easier to raise $20M Series A than as a younger founder. I'm pretty confident I have a much better chance of raising money than I did a decade or two ago. To be specific, I think I would have had almost no chance way back when, and I think I'd probably have better-than-even-odds today, if I tried (which I wouldn't; I'm committed to what I'm doing). However, that doesn't mean places don't age…

My recollection is that $125k came about because when there was more money (and there was at one time) it was enough to tempt a non-trivial number of founders to fight over rather than build a company. The problem, in so far as what I read on HN, was not three cofounders deciding to take the money and travel the world instead of building the company. The problem was that the founders who were interested in fighting o…

> because when there was more money (and there was at one time) it was enough to tempt a non-trivia

My recollection is the opposite. I picked a random web archive day 12+ years ago and confirmed it was a laughably small sum:

https://web.archive.org/web/20090302183945/http://ycombinato...

> We usually invest $5000 + $5000n, where n is the number of participating founders (i.e. 2 founders get $15,000, 3 get $20,000), in return for between 2% and 10% of the company. The median is 6%.

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#119
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a shame. I know several founders who email specific partners who have in experience in their industry and they seem to get more personalized rejections

Regular applicants definetly don't get this. YC says as much in the rejection email. I guess it is all really easy when you are already connected.

Nobody was connected when they started, not myself either. They got their partner contact publicly or from public events they hold

Re: Done with YC: Age Discrimination

#120
post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular applicants definetly don't get this. YC says as much in the rejection email. I guess it is all really easy when you are already connected.

Nobody was connected when they started, not myself either. They got their partner contact publicly or from public events they hold

Did they participate in the Startup School or other programs?
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