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The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by TchoBeer »

lukego wrote: post #25
lordnacho wrote: post #6

For a while I would work as a coder during the day, and in the evening I would work in the mines, for my son. "Dad we need more iron ore. Dad, make sure the furnaces have coal in them." Eventually my kid worked out that you can build generators, effectively coding it in MC bricks and providing infinite resources. Probably the first time he's coded something, he just doesn't know it. This made my evenings a bit less m…

I'm in the opposite situation. I setup a Minecraft server and outsourced the hard work to my kids. They are toiling away for a couple of hours most days building all kinds of elaborate structures. I just drop in to say a few words of appreciation and go mining in search of diamonds. They do cajole me into hunting food for them sometimes though.

You've recreated child labor in Minecraft lol

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by yreg »

anon_cow1111 wrote: post #20
lordnacho wrote: post #6

For a while I would work as a coder during the day, and in the evening I would work in the mines, for my son. "Dad we need more iron ore. Dad, make sure the furnaces have coal in them." Eventually my kid worked out that you can build generators, effectively coding it in MC bricks and providing infinite resources. Probably the first time he's coded something, he just doesn't know it. This made my evenings a bit less m…

I think the ideal way to use TNT is place it in the center of a 3x3x3 block room, suspended on dirt or something with low blast resist. It'll expand the room to roughly 5x5x5. You can do this again to expand to 7x7x7 So basically you're getting ~250 blocks removed per 2 TNT. A mob spawner/farm can produce 100 or more gunpowder in 10 minutes. Rails are more easily found in mine shafts than crafted. Dump water instead…

I always thought the intended ideal way to use TNT is to put it under a pressure plate in your friends home.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by anthony_r »

charcircuit wrote: post #64
anthony_r wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: install Baritone Step 2: type "#mine iron_ore" https://github.com/cabaletta/baritone https://youtu.be/CZkLXWo4Fg4?t=80 I always wonder why so few people know about Baritone. It can do so much: move the player, clear areas, mine ores and other blocks, construct simple surfaces such as roads or even paste complicated Schematicas layer by layer. Perhaps it takes away too much of the fun.

Step 1: /give @p iron_ore 64 If you are going to cheat, you might as well be efficient

If you want to play creative - sure. About survival - I mean, would you think using Google Maps for driving instructions is cheating? What about those cheater self-driving cars, damn them! Back in my day we used to walk uphill both ways, etc.

Besides, it's mostly for multi-player. Playing this game single-player is only the beginning.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by willis936 »

Akronymus wrote: post #58
willis936 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GT:NH does hit a lot of good points, but overshoots by quite a bit. My best experience in minecraft was from making my own GT5U kitchen sink pack with GT-based modified recipes.

I think gregblock could be to your liking. Altough it is greg lite. Same with omnifactory, sadly. Still quite enjoyable packs.

I've tried it. GTCE's dev is on a power trip and completely misses the enjoyable aspects of gregtech. It's like if someone pissed in a wine you like then insisted that it's better and anyone who thinks otherwise is out of their depth. GTCE isn't even in need of a fork because all of the work has been shoddy from the beginning. It's a failed project.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by IntrepidWorm »

lordnacho wrote: post #6

For a while I would work as a coder during the day, and in the evening I would work in the mines, for my son. "Dad we need more iron ore. Dad, make sure the furnaces have coal in them." Eventually my kid worked out that you can build generators, effectively coding it in MC bricks and providing infinite resources. Probably the first time he's coded something, he just doesn't know it. This made my evenings a bit less m…

Tnt is useful for it's efficiency. Gunpowder can be automatically farmed through relatively simple means, while sand (for instance) is not so easily automated. With a few well placed blocks of tnt, entire inventories full of sand can be collected in moments compared to digging it block by block.

Minecarts and their tracks are useful for automation of resource transmission- while faster modes of player transportation exist, it's difficult to transport thousands of items by hand- with a line of tracks and some simple automation, this becomes trivial.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by dasyatidprime »

Nition wrote: post #70
lordnacho wrote: post #6

For a while I would work as a coder during the day, and in the evening I would work in the mines, for my son. "Dad we need more iron ore. Dad, make sure the furnaces have coal in them." Eventually my kid worked out that you can build generators, effectively coding it in MC bricks and providing infinite resources. Probably the first time he's coded something, he just doesn't know it. This made my evenings a bit less m…

You might be looking for a kind of deliberate planned game design that just isn't really there in Minecraft. The world is destructible so why not have a block to blow it up? TNT takes gunpowder to create because why wouldn't it? Gunpowder comes from creepers because they're around and they explode. Minecarts are for riding in, but the first thing Notch demonstrated for them was a rollercoaster. Horses weren't added u…

The most amusing part about TNT is that it's called TNT, it's crafted with gunpowder, and it looks like dynamite, which in real life are three different explosives.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

tialaramex wrote: post #24
lordnacho wrote: post #6

For a while I would work as a coder during the day, and in the evening I would work in the mines, for my son. "Dad we need more iron ore. Dad, make sure the furnaces have coal in them." Eventually my kid worked out that you can build generators, effectively coding it in MC bricks and providing infinite resources. Probably the first time he's coded something, he just doesn't know it. This made my evenings a bit less m…

To be fair as a video game it doesn't need to have working economics. It's OK if something is cool and doesn't make economic sense. I rarely play Vanilla, but I thought it had some type of powered minecarts allowing primitive automation? Maybe some types of rails that get a redstone signal speed up carts or something like that? In modded I take the same attitude as in programming: Don't Repeat Yourself. If I have to…

Hopping Bonsai pots are hardly automation, they're a one-block fix item. Modded packs too often turn the game into Crafting Simulator, where your job is to click the right series of buttons to get the one block that does everything.

I think the best modded pack right now is the Create mod, because in it you use more flexible, more primitive automation tools like belts and shafts and gearboxes to build machines that do the work. You can have a contraption that does everything a hopping bonsai does, but instead of crafting it in JEI you have to assemble it in the world with deployers and timers and filters and so on.

Vanilla minecarts are useful for moving mobs, but not for actual mining.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by smegger001 »

yreg wrote: post #72
anon_cow1111 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the ideal way to use TNT is place it in the center of a 3x3x3 block room, suspended on dirt or something with low blast resist. It'll expand the room to roughly 5x5x5. You can do this again to expand to 7x7x7 So basically you're getting ~250 blocks removed per 2 TNT. A mob spawner/farm can produce 100 or more gunpowder in 10 minutes. Rails are more easily found in mine shafts than crafted. Dump water instead…

I always thought the intended ideal way to use TNT is to put it under a pressure plate in your friends home.

you mean under your friends spawn point

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by moomin »

The article touches on this, but one of the things that pretty much every computer game gets wrong is making diamonds super strong and rare in the natural world, when in the real world they’re neither.

De Beers must be laughing down their sleeves.

Re: The Rocks and Minerals of Minecraft

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Post by notthemessiah »

charliea0 wrote: post #3

The process of going from rocks to manufactured goods is fascinating, and probably part of the interest in Minecraft. Obligatory link to a video showing the home refinement of iron metal from minerals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBt7IhHOFQ

Some Minecraft mods like TerraFirmaCraft and new games such as Vintage Story opt for a more realistic portrayal, and include the use of realistic ore and flux in smelting.
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