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Messaging and chat control

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Re: Messaging and chat control

#211
Why exactly are we believing the author's claims? The link on the supposed "2.0" announcement on mandatory CSAM scanning leads to no such annoucement. Nor does any of the other 50 links on the page, as far as I can tell.

Re: Messaging and chat control

#212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as well as sexting between consenting teenagers. Good god. I can't imagine the influx of in my view innocent teens suddenly labeled sex offenders because they did what all teens do, only virtually. This is going to be a weird time.

It might also turn into a good teachable moment for teens about privacy, sharing, and technology. I don’t take a picture on a smartphone of anything that I wouldn’t want to make public, and I surely wouldn’t share or post it anywhere. If it leaves your device, it’s effectively public, regardless of whether whoever you sent it to tells you they’ll keep it “private”.

> If it leaves your device

Even this is naïve with Apple's new plan. How long do you really think they'll wait before a software update makes it apply to even things that don't leave your device?

Re: Messaging and chat control

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post #98

The scary thing about this is that many people have images that look like child porn at home: Family photos of naked grandchildren playing at the sea or in the mud, as well as sexting between consenting teenagers. There is no way automatic classification can distinguish these from real child porn, because they look almost identical and thus many private pictures will be shared with the government. This not only infri…

When I was in school, it was mentioned often during the school's programs on why sexting was bad that sexting was technically child pornography distribution. I don't understand what consent has to do with it. Children's consent is not legally valid for anything sexual.

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#215
this is exactly why I created a chat service you can host on your home pc... I believe centralization by big corporations plus laws passed with various objectives made by various governments is the end of the internet as we know it. A tool meant to connect the humans from different countries, culture and religions to exchange ideas, discuss, share knowledge and empower people against corrupted governments.

I believe peer to peer is the way to go and we tech people have a duty to inform and vulgarize technologies and outcomes to our close relatives.

This is the digital legacy we will leave to future generations.

Re: Messaging and chat control

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between me _opt-in_ to give private data in exchange for points, and that being unilaterally imposed. It's also kind of harder to abuse information on my shopping list, whereas there's plenty of ways to abuse having total and complete access to all communication between private parties.

Think of it this way: what is more important to you, the convenience of exchanging text messages with your friends, or keeping these conversations private?

What is your point, given that many will reply "what is more important is dignity, so the choice is for privacy"?

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post #98

The scary thing about this is that many people have images that look like child porn at home: Family photos of naked grandchildren playing at the sea or in the mud, as well as sexting between consenting teenagers. There is no way automatic classification can distinguish these from real child porn, because they look almost identical and thus many private pictures will be shared with the government. This not only infri…

"Child porn" is a smokescreen. It's what every privacy advocate saw coming: find the worst, most repugnant thing possible and use it to backdoor encryption. It's not a dream, and it's really happening, right now.

Yes, given all the burgeoning authoritarian states where phones are sold it's clearly population control.

Regardless of country, scanning for material critical of PRC, Lukashenko or Erdoğan is the exact same tech you might want to scan for copyright violations, union organizing, political party opposition, cryptocurrency, or any other dissent your local burgeoning authoritarian wants to pay for.

Both phone OS vendors have over and over proven eager to satisfy every authoritarian, no matter the human impact. We're screwed.

Re: Messaging and chat control

#218
post #6

Privacy is something that people usually only care about on a theoretical level. Practically speaking, they're often happy to not care so much at all if they get something more tangible in return. --- Company: Excuse me, would you mind us profiling you through an accurate survey of most of your everyday purchases? Customer: Heck no! Company: What if we let you collect "points" that will maybe someday safe you a littl…

The choice and position of Average Joe and Median Jack should not impact (compromise) the rest.

Re: Messaging and chat control

#219

For those of us who need more security, which most of us expect from the state, mass surveillance will surely help. For those of us who insist on breaking the law this will become a problem.

How many people need more security coming from the state in EU? /rhetorical question

Re: Messaging and chat control

#220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They exclusively follow the edge of the police line and mostly focuses on them throughout. Typically therefore, coverage shows limited numbers of people, and most of any violence that occurs. But, it's better than nothing, and at least documents who started what. In the case of Berlin recently, it was particularly shocking.

I see them walking embedded in the crowds in Paris. They tend to follow the action if a particular place 'dies out'. > it was particularly shocking. Why so vague?

Have I not typed enough?
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