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Re: Apps Getting Worse

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The Nubank app has just been redesigned. While I won't state that it's worse than the previous version, I am certainly sure it isn't any better. The thing is, right now, I can't seem to find anything in the app, since the redesign changed the location of all the things.

Re: Apps Getting Worse

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I hope people will use Spotify as a case study in how to fuck up a UI over time. The service itself is fine, I quite like some of the music it finds for me on discover, but the UI is on a slow death march towards complete uselessness, and some features have always been hopelessly broken (queuing). From a business standpoint I find it fascinating. It's about as perfect as an example it gets of "if it ain't broke, don'…

I hope there's some UI/UX designers that can explain this to me. It often appears that design changes are changed just to change. Doing things like changing the clock from right to left (Android). Moving a bar that's existed to another location (Spotify). Removing color hints (Signal). And so many other things. Things that basically your users have been trained to look at and then need to be retrained. Removing hinti…

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Re: Apps Getting Worse

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I hope there's some UI/UX designers that can explain this to me. It often appears that design changes are changed just to change. Doing things like changing the clock from right to left (Android). Moving a bar that's existed to another location (Spotify). Removing color hints (Signal). And so many other things. Things that basically your users have been trained to look at and then need to be retrained. Removing hinti…

I think this goes to the fact that the people designing, implementing and signing off on development are looking at the UIs constantly - close to 8 hours a day, every day. This is usually (at least) an order of magnitude more than your users (well unless you're Facebook I guess). I think many people just get bored looking at the same old screen all the time; and so when a designer inevitably proposes something differ…

That's actually a good explanation.

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The only feature I want from Evernote is the one they fail to deliver: if I know I have a note about something, and I search for that note in the Evernote mobile app, I want it to find and display that note. Instead, about half the time it returns an error screen that says (paraphrasing) "That note can not be displayed right now, try again later" I do not want to look at my note later. You have one job: show me my no…

This is literally why I'm still not buying the "searching is better than organizing" line that so many companies, including Google, try to push down our throats. Searching is only better than organizing if searches are exhaustive, and I can trust that they are exhaustive . My experience with variety of products, including Evernote, Google Drive and GMail, tells me I can't trust that. I had plenty of instances when I…

I have my notes in one large disorganised plain text file. Sublime text searches it exhaustively in a fraction of a second. Works quite well though syncing across devices is still an issue

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Which apps are you referring to? I couldn't name a single open source desktop apps which has good UX or design. It's natural, since these are built by developers, not designers, and they primarily care about functionality and don't have to entice users with good looks and UX. I do know some Android apps that are pretty good, eg RedReader for Reddit.

VLC?

In Linux, VLC won't quit. It will just minimize to the tray, but block anything else from being opened. It seems the only option is pkill-ing it.

Re: Apps Getting Worse

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OSS has the best designs, at least on the desktop. And it's becoming quite competitive in mobile and touch interfaces, too.

Which apps are you referring to? I couldn't name a single open source desktop apps which has good UX or design. It's natural, since these are built by developers, not designers, and they primarily care about functionality and don't have to entice users with good looks and UX. I do know some Android apps that are pretty good, eg RedReader for Reddit.

Handbrake is probably the best I've seen at balancing simple and advanced options.

Re: Apps Getting Worse

#547

There should be a new category of apps, where you can still get the contents offered by a given service (Spotify, Youtube, your favourite news service etc.) while at the same time not using the built in UI. For example, imagine a web app that embeds Youtube videos, that will show you every new video published by channels you choose. No home page suggestions, no "trending", no "you might be interested in". You could d…

"Not mainstream" is key here. Once those become mainstream, they get shut down by the provider of the original service.

The original provider wants to make money off this, so they use the UI to provide you with ads and a bunch of tricks to keep engagement up. No way they let you off the hook to use what's costly without being exposed to what drives the income stream.

Open APIs, that's what you need. Obviously Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Google Chat, etc don't have any, for the above reasons.

I'm honestly surprised that email is still a thing. It's the last somewhat open API around. (Unless you count HTTP..)

Re: Apps Getting Worse

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I hope there's some UI/UX designers that can explain this to me. It often appears that design changes are changed just to change. Doing things like changing the clock from right to left (Android). Moving a bar that's existed to another location (Spotify). Removing color hints (Signal). And so many other things. Things that basically your users have been trained to look at and then need to be retrained. Removing hinti…

I think this goes to the fact that the people designing, implementing and signing off on development are looking at the UIs constantly - close to 8 hours a day, every day. This is usually (at least) an order of magnitude more than your users (well unless you're Facebook I guess). I think many people just get bored looking at the same old screen all the time; and so when a designer inevitably proposes something differ…

That or some designers are opinionated and more interested in making their mark on a design, compared with understanding and advocating for their userbase.

Honestly I've heard this line more from designers than any other field:

"We can't add that feature/button because it's too confusing"

Usually the above statement is conflicting with reality and the request to add the feature/button is to give the UI clarity (or worse, provide the feature the customer asked for!)

Re: Apps Getting Worse

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I hope there's some UI/UX designers that can explain this to me. It often appears that design changes are changed just to change. Doing things like changing the clock from right to left (Android). Moving a bar that's existed to another location (Spotify). Removing color hints (Signal). And so many other things. Things that basically your users have been trained to look at and then need to be retrained. Removing hinti…

I mean, they are employees. If they aren’t working, they will get fired. There work is measured in updates to the apps. They have to keep changing.

This is quite obviously the answer, and UI design isn't a skill like software where your boss can say "If you've finish your work, start a new project." We don't need more UI designs like we need more useful/efficient software.

Imagine If software engineers could get paid to constantly refactor the code and change APIs -- oh, wait, API devs do, for the same reason.

Re: Apps Getting Worse

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Subplot: I doubt they care. Since spotify is designed to lose money it has little reason to care if customers cancel, it's only going to be concerned if investors lose interest.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I think bugginess just doesn't affect bottom lines of most companies these days, hence the state we're in. Also, anecdotally, I find people are very tolerant of bugs and just suffer in silence a lot of the time.

Why did you write "yeah" and then contradict everything parent said about revenue impact?
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