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Wealth Shown to Scale

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Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #16

Erm, how about the wealth/money controlled by the Federal government? That's much bigger than anything shown here.

And, in theory at least, belongs to and serves the people as a whole. Not one single solitary exclusive and extraordinarily privileged human being.

In theory. In practice, this wealth is controlled and overseen by privately owned commercial banks that look out for the interest of their owners, i.e. primarily the super-wealthy.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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I'm always wondering how the capital gains work for the rich, or rather how they work around it. In case he sells the Amazon stock, it means he is due 28.6% American capital gains tax ie. 53 billion USD? I don't think so... the wealth of the richest basically have multiplied in the last 2 years...

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely it. Any taxes on just the ultra wealthy raise so little money for the rest of the population that any large scale money raising requires taxes on doctors, lawyers, engineers, small business owners, etc. Pro-government spending advocates don’t like to emphasize this because people become a lot less supportive of these things when they see members of their own community getting hit.

It would certainly help if the ultra wealthy and global corporations would just pay their fair share rather than use possible combination of barely-legal structures to avoid being taxed, bribe officials to create special exemptions, offload money to tax heavens and scare-monger about losing jobs whenever an actual tax increase is due. The USA cannot even properly finance the IRS to go after the super wealthy tax chea…

the powerful write the rules. always has been the case.

do you know of any societies that managed to sustain a dynamic where that's not the case?

I literally cannot think of any at all. Just some very brief temporary aberrations.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #12

I disagree on the the thrust of the argument - that people (including comparatively wealthy individuals like doctors and lawyers) oppose changes to tackle wealth inequality because they don’t understand the gulf of wealth between them and the ultra rich. In my experience it has nothing to do with that - rather these people know that they will ultimately end up as the main target for any such law, not these billionair…

The problem is you can't tax freedom.

Having a big pile of leverageable assets, even if you have little income, gives you a lot of insulation from many of the costs and risks we all come across in life. For example, freedom from paying rent, freedom from having to obtain and service debt, and freedom from having to worry about job security.

Meanwhile your doctors and lawyers give 40% of their income to the state and still have student debt, mortgages, may be forced to live in a high CoL area, and may have to live with high stress.

And every day people don't really understand wealth. There's a dumb competition advertised on TV here in the UK where you can win a £3M ($4.2M) house on the coast, and a sports car. While it's glamorous, upending your life to move to live in this home is deeply impractical for most people. The cost of maintaining and protecting it would likely cost the entirety of a median UK salary. That's not freedom.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #8

A society that is extreme in one category is likely to be extreme in other categories as well.

Europeans were very fond of killing each other in the first half of 20th century for the profit of the richest industrialists. Divide, agitate, conquer, reap the profits.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #7

Nice graphic, but also a bit misleading. Bezos would never be able to immediately realise that amount of assets in to useful cash. So saying no human deserves this amount of wealth is kind of already fulfilled? He may have 2 or 3 billion as cash maybe.

What's "cash"? A marketable security? I'm insanely poor by these standards but wealthfront will front me hard cash using my account as collateral with one click i think up to 30%. Super cheap interest rate. Bezos has way more favorable banking. Even if he was 'only' worth $10-15 billion I bet he could get 2-3 billion in hard cash overnight. He might not hold a lot of cash, but he doesn't need to he can get it immedia…

Not just that, he could trivially offload 15 billion without price moving at all.

Tons of private equity M&As have happened at much larger valuation.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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post #39

Missing: median US Black household wealth, $24,100; median US Hispanic household wealth, $36,100. Numbers as of 2019. https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disp...

Lifetime budgetary impact by race: White: +$200,000 Black: -$751,000 Hispanic: -$588,000 Puts your numbers in perspective Source: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BUDGET-2014-BUD/pdf/BUDG...

where is that in the document?

no hits on the numbers you provided.

Re: Wealth Shown to Scale

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A simple calculation can show that, with just defense budget of top 10 country, the world could install enough solar cell to power the world day and night, forever. But will we do it ? I don’t think things can go stupider that this. Future generations will see us in the same level of stupidity with which we see flat earth believer from centuries ago.
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