Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
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Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
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The human body is 12% carbon, so every child locks up some carbon. Having children also increase the chances of raising more adults who might solve the big problems. And don’t waste electricity virtue signaling online.
I’m not virtue signaling. Other than the political action thing (honestly think it’s pointless) and the fact that I buy too much crap online, that’s how I live my life. I just don’t see a way where humans “beat” climate change without an incredible (and incredibly unlikely) shift in how we live our lives.
Climate change represents a civilization-wide threat that we can only address through intense collective action, and even then it may be too late. Since we seem incapable of collective action with anything serious at stake there’s probably nothing any of us can do individually that will matter.
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#23Start with reading. For example http://www.withouthotair.com/
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
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This comment is refuted by the dozens of clean energy and clean XXX companies currently doing great work and hiring.
A huge amount of carbon is emitted by sources that can't be profitably replaced in the near future: coal (especially in China), concrete, and cars come to mind. The only entities that can accelerate the switch is the government. Those sources of carbon are still too cheap in most places for consumers or businesses to want to stop using them entirely. I'll also point out that OP asked what a software dev can do, not w…
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#25So as far as programming jobs, the most interesting would be working for a company that is explicitly focused on climate:
- Carbon markets are growing fast. Here I'll plug the company I co-founded, [Offsetra.com](http://offsetra.com/). It's a competitive space, and a unique one, but I 100% believe in it and I know it will play a significant role in global emissions reductions. Lots of room for web and app development.
- Carbon accounting is also growing. A fantastic space where software and automation can solve problems and lower costs. I helped build a very simple tool, carbon.fyi, which led to a truly astonishing amount of attention, media & impact. I'd like to keep building more tools in this space.
- Hard core engineering. New energy tech, battery tech, materials, or efficiency improvements. Surely room for software, but requires specialization.
- Fun moon-shot startups like the ones you see here from YC. Most tend to be focused on Direct Air Capture. I'm not so excited about that, but some people are.
Not strictly climate-focused, but still super relevant:
- The broad ESG, consulting and green-investment space (includes carbon accounting, but also non-financial reporting, investing, venture capital etc.). Basically 'helping companies go green'. Billions of dollars in this industry, plenty of room to improve process and automate.
- GIS. This is where I ended up for my day job. Geographic Information Systems. Building or using the software that governments, consultants, and researchers use to understand the planet. From hardcore lowlevel programming, to machine learning, web-dev, design and more. Huge and important industry. Caveat: the fossil fuel industry also loves GIS.
- Transit, mobility, urbanism. Love this field. I worked for a wonderful mobility startup and interviewed with many others. Even Google is involved in this space, of course through Google Maps, but also Sidewalk Labs.
Other things I can think of... climate modeling and academic research, social organization/activism and politics.... NGOs definitely hire developers, especially web and frontend. I've interviewed with Vizzuality, Environmental Defense Fund, and some others I forget.
DM me, I'd love to connect.
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#26Get involved politically. This is the only way to change anything, but it’s extremely unlikely you’ll have any effect. Next, as an individual who’s likely richer than average (as a programmer on HN) and has the ability to do these things: 1. Don’t have biological children. 2. Don’t eat meat. 3. Don’t drive a car. 4. Don’t fly in planes. 5. Don’t buy things you don’t really need. 6. Live in small/dense housing.
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
A huge amount of carbon is emitted by sources that can't be profitably replaced in the near future: coal (especially in China), concrete, and cars come to mind. The only entities that can accelerate the switch is the government. Those sources of carbon are still too cheap in most places for consumers or businesses to want to stop using them entirely. I'll also point out that OP asked what a software dev can do, not w…
Natural gas is rapidly obsoleting coal on price, thanks to American frackers. Pollution absolutely can be replaced profitably, and without plunging billions back into poverty
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
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If this is the only answer to climate change, we are fucked. Except for #5 I would be miserable if I had to live like this, and I expect most people in developed countries would be as well.
Either we change how we live or we’re fucked. And from what I’ve seen, people don’t mind being fucked tomorrow as long as they’re OK today. Even better if they can be OK-ish tomorrow as long as somebody else gets fucked worse. Do you really truly believe that there’s going to be a magic climate change solution that allows the developed world to continue living the way it has?
Yes, it’s called nuclear power
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#29Is the climate changing? Of course, trivially true. It would be far more remarkable to find any physical system that wasn't changing.
Is the climate changing in any unprecedented way? I don't think so. For context, look at the graph on http://scotese.com/climate.htm All but the last few pixels are, of course, before the possibility of human influence, and we clearly see the temperature varying between 10 and 25C. We've been in what Scotese calls the "ice box" for all of human history. What would you expect to happen? I'd expect it to warm up. What else would it do?
That's temperature. What about CO2? Humans are thought to have added about 100 ppm over about a century, from around 300 to around 400. Not that long ago, though, CO2 ppm was twice what it is now. Not that long ago, it was 10x what it is now. The earth at that time was a jungle teeming with life.
We're often told that CO2 level are dangerously high, when in fact CO2 is almost as low as it's ever been in all of earth's history. Have you ever heard of a dangerous low CO2 ppm? It's about 150, at which apparently plant respiration fails. It seems we have been much much closer to cataclysm from low CO2 than from high.
Re: Ask HN: How can I, a programmer, help with the fight against climate change?
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Either we change how we live or we’re fucked. And from what I’ve seen, people don’t mind being fucked tomorrow as long as they’re OK today. Even better if they can be OK-ish tomorrow as long as somebody else gets fucked worse. Do you really truly believe that there’s going to be a magic climate change solution that allows the developed world to continue living the way it has?
> “Do you really truly believe that there’s going to be a magic climate change solution that allows the developed world to continue living the way it has?” Yes, it’s called nuclear power