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About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by Ocerge »

thewarrior wrote: post #12
chmod600 wrote: post #8

Most people are probably best off with good jobs that sound boring but are highly demanded. Could be plumber or software engineer or accountant or whatever. People are happy to see you, happy when you do your job, and pay you well. People work as a team rather than compete. Don't underestimate the value of pleasantness in day to day interactions. Cool sounding jobs are competitive and you are likely to be treated poo…

Does software engineering sound boring ?

Yes, it's boring as hell. But I value stability more than a stimulating job.

Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by analog31 »

neonnoodle wrote: post #15
chmod600 wrote: post #8

Most people are probably best off with good jobs that sound boring but are highly demanded. Could be plumber or software engineer or accountant or whatever. People are happy to see you, happy when you do your job, and pay you well. People work as a team rather than compete. Don't underestimate the value of pleasantness in day to day interactions. Cool sounding jobs are competitive and you are likely to be treated poo…

So I’m an animator and I’d like to work on my craft. I’d also like a comfortable living, nothing outrageous by American standards. I’m not interested in the “job” of animator (unless something really wild came along), because these jobs don’t sound very appealing. It is very competitive, a “dream job” that attracts lots of young artists willing to work to death for a chance to break in to the business, but with relat…

I'm a musician with a day job. This is a widely familiar approach to a music "career." I've learned to satisfy myself with playing for a live audience and not trying to do any kind of recording or publishing. There are things that a "day jobber" misses out on, such as more elaborate projects that require rehearsals that are held during the day, or anything involving travel. On the other hand I have the freedom to play fairly esoteric music that is not commercially viable.

Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by the_only_law »

Gibbon1 wrote: post #18
thewarrior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does software engineering sound boring ?

> boring In 1983 I spent a few months working on a crud app. Finished it and never worked on another.

What have you done since?

Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by ipaddr »

wincy wrote: post #13
thewarrior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does software engineering sound boring ?

Sure, people don’t get excited and ask me more when I say I work on mortgage software. If I said I’m a game developer you can bet that’d be way less “boring” sounding.

Mortgage software actually sounds interesting and complex.

Game developer working for someone else sounds boring.

Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by Gatsky »

chadcmulligan wrote: post #2

It's like all those jobs - game developer, film jobs, graphic artist, artist, musician - too many young people want to do it and there's a lot of money if you're successful so it attracts sharks up the top who keep all the money. Just don't is my advice, unless you have a trust fund, which a large number of those successful have, you can weather out the early years then until you make a name for yourself.

Science is also like this.

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Post by afterburner »

chmod600 wrote: post #8

Most people are probably best off with good jobs that sound boring but are highly demanded. Could be plumber or software engineer or accountant or whatever. People are happy to see you, happy when you do your job, and pay you well. People work as a team rather than compete. Don't underestimate the value of pleasantness in day to day interactions. Cool sounding jobs are competitive and you are likely to be treated poo…

> People are happy to see you, happy when you do your job

Never had a bad manager huh?

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Post by alspacka »

neonnoodle wrote: post #15
chmod600 wrote: post #8

Most people are probably best off with good jobs that sound boring but are highly demanded. Could be plumber or software engineer or accountant or whatever. People are happy to see you, happy when you do your job, and pay you well. People work as a team rather than compete. Don't underestimate the value of pleasantness in day to day interactions. Cool sounding jobs are competitive and you are likely to be treated poo…

So I’m an animator and I’d like to work on my craft. I’d also like a comfortable living, nothing outrageous by American standards. I’m not interested in the “job” of animator (unless something really wild came along), because these jobs don’t sound very appealing. It is very competitive, a “dream job” that attracts lots of young artists willing to work to death for a chance to break in to the business, but with relat…

I’m an animator and the complex jobs == production hell. Every facet of the industry is a race to the bottom, just a matter of how insulated you are from it. Luckily I’m in medical animation where things move a little more slowly

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Post by rossdavidh »

Gatsky wrote: post #26
chadcmulligan wrote: post #2

It's like all those jobs - game developer, film jobs, graphic artist, artist, musician - too many young people want to do it and there's a lot of money if you're successful so it attracts sharks up the top who keep all the money. Just don't is my advice, unless you have a trust fund, which a large number of those successful have, you can weather out the early years then until you make a name for yourself.

Science is also like this.

Ouch! Good point. Ph.D. candidates are in a similar boat with the animators.

Re: About 90% of Animators Quit Their Jobs Within 3 Years

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Post by yodon »

artursapek wrote: post #24

How far are we from automating the job of animators with tech like what makes DeepFake videos?

Animation is about acting - sometimes comedy, always emotions. Like acting it is hard to specify the desired end state and harder still to identify the decisions and actions required to achieve it. "She needs to look more nurturing" or "that ocean wave needs to look more aggressive (but not malicious)" are legitimate things a Director might say to an animator. Machine Learning can already make an image walk. The trick is making it walk in a way that the audience will connect with emotionally in that moment.
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