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California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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what's so special about California that it's always on fire? Why don't we have this kind of issue in say Maine, Michigan or North Carolina which all have lots of forest?

Found an interesting page:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/us-maps/3/201009?p...

Every year shows the same pattern: you can see how California is tinder-dry at the end of each summer.

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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post #24

what's so special about California that it's always on fire? Why don't we have this kind of issue in say Maine, Michigan or North Carolina which all have lots of forest?

Generally not as wet. Camped in dozens of states across America and where it is trivial to start a fire with downed wood in the west, it is far more difficult in the east. Landscape is far more lush in the east.

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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I remember how it was a huge deal for weeks when our former president said something along these lines but to a large extent the administration was correct. I hate the fact that these changes to forestry management are going to be delayed or shot down just because of partisan bullshit. I’d say we’re better than this but I’m not quite sure nowadays.

Most of California’s forests are managed by the Interior Department. Why wasn’t federal forest policy changed if the last administration believed that was the primary cause of fires?

I think Interior tends to defer to state and local interests rather than following national policies.

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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At least we saw it coming and made some preparations. I think climate change is a massive problem but we can't put it all on climate change because droughts are part of California history and we can put some of the blame on forest management practices. 100 million dead trees in the Sierra are a massive risk for unpredictable wildfires https://news.berkeley.edu/2018/01/18/sierra-wildfire-risk/ Fire Suppression — And C…

These extreme fire events extend across the entire Northern hemisphere right now (Oregon, Washington, Montana, Greece, Turkey, Siberia etc.). Blaming California specific forest management practices is disingenuous at best.

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The former president was very inarticulate about it, which I'd say was the problem. He told us California residents that we needed to sweep our forests and didn't acknowledge that the majority of the public forests were the responsibility of the Federal Govt. A more knowledgeable Republican president could have made a better case that wouldn't get ridiculed. Trump blames California for wildfires, tells state 'you got…

Let’s see, most of the giant fires, Shasta Trinity, Mendocino, Six Rivers, Lassen, Plumas are all National Forests. Lassen National Park, part of the Dixie fire. I guess these people think Newsom was/is President or do not understand the difference between county, state and federal jurisdiction.

Not totally; they are intermingled with privately held land.

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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Most of California’s forests are managed by the Interior Department. Why wasn’t federal forest policy changed if the last administration believed that was the primary cause of fires?

I think Interior tends to defer to state and local interests rather than following national policies.

That’s not how it works. This is, literally, land owned and managed by the federal government. It’s on them to manage it.

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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California has by far the most number of wildfires and most acres burned each year compared to other states, no matter your measure. States can sue one another over water rights if one state is polluting water upstream to another state. Is a similar right available for air rights? It seems unfair that Nevada, Idaho, Colorado and Montana have to suffer from California’s mismanagement and lack of prevention, and perhap…

Pretty unlikely, California and the west is finally returning to its natural burn cycle, albeit with a bang. Annual burn acres are closer to the pre-1800s.

We need more smaller prescribed burns, not less. If residents in neighboring states don't like it, the are free to relocate.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of California’s forests are managed by the Interior Department. Why wasn’t federal forest policy changed if the last administration believed that was the primary cause of fires?

I think Interior tends to defer to state and local interests rather than following national policies.

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Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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My hope is that California finally gets serious with its environmental management after this. I know, feels like a pipe dream, but we should have been doing things like Israel had done, like transitioning farms and cities to desalinated water sources decades ago for instance. Another lacking practice is controlled burns done with the intention of decreasing these types of fires and actually healing forests. I’ll stave more rants but this isn’t exactly a new problem it’s just new in its scope

Re: California's Dixie Fire Is Now the 2nd Largest in State History

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The Fed Govt. is in charge of the overwhelming vast majority of the forest in Cali. >It doesn't have to be this way When you have one of two political parties that meaningfully exist in the US parroting the fact they "believe the Fed. Govt should be small enough you can drown it in a bathtub" It does in fact have to be this way.

Thanks. I enjoyed reading up on that today. As for the federal role, I think a lawsuit is exactly how to solve this. Both parties are for big government, and neither has solved this when they could.

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One party is most definitely not for big government, or at least they claim not to be to garner a large portion of their votes. And, if they are for big government, they've proven time and time again to not give the slightest fuck about managing things that need to be managed, in favor of slashing/redirecting all budgets for more frivolous endeavours.

>neither has solved this when they could.

Yes, this goes hand in hand with their re-election tactics. They complain about something, say they'll solve it, don't solve it when given an opportunity, then campaign again on said issues, and repeat this for decades. It's quite simple and works because their constituency appears to have the attention span of a walnut.

>think a lawsuit is exactly how to solve this.

You obviously don't have the best understanding of how the US legal system works, especially on this level. A lawsuit can/will quite literally drag things out until all involved are pretty much dead/it's too damn late to save whatever the lawsuit was about in the first place.

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