Live data from Hacker News

When Patents Attack

npr.org

91–100 of 135 posts

Re: When Patents Attack

#91

Can someone please tell me what Myrvolhd actually DID when he was leading MS Research? I remember no innovations from MS in that era.

When you look up who's at MSFT Research (and there are some truly great minds there -- Leslie Lamport of LaTeX fame for one, I find a certain credence to the theory posited by some that its main function was to take talent off the market.

Re: When Patents Attack

#92
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you name an example of a good software patent?

As long as it meets the non-obvious and no-prior-art tests, I don't see a problem with the concept. Something like mouse gestures feel like a patentable innovation worthy of a temporary government-enforced monopoly.

Sure, but not for a decade or more. The timescale of patents is simply incompatible with the timescale of software.

Re: When Patents Attack

#94
post #63
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that the article is against the patent process, and the downmodders don't seem to get that I was referring to IV's characterisation of itself, not npr's characterisation of IV - I thought it was clear where I was directing it due to the phrase " you're not a market". I wasn't using 'patent troll' or any of the other terminology. I was pointing out a flaw in this guy's reasoning. Yes, I had only read 500 words i…

The subject of article is more or less how IV's reasoning is flawed. Picking a quote from the beginning and saying "that is flawed" is just echoing the bulk of the article. I would guess your downmodders think you're not adding to the discussion.

I don't buy that argument - why aren't many of the other short comments in this page getting the same treatment when they're not adding to the discussion either?

Re: When Patents Attack

#96

Serious question: can/do patent trolls go after open source projects? I'm not thinking of businesses who sell/support open source software (e.g. Red Hat), but would it be a viable "defense" for an indie dev to simply release their project as open source? I've got an idea for a "weekend project" or two that I could conceivably make a few bucks with, or I could release them as open source so that I can at least benefit…

The Debian patent FAQ is pretty good for this: http://www.debian.org/reports/patent-faq

Re: When Patents Attack

#98
post #94
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The subject of article is more or less how IV's reasoning is flawed. Picking a quote from the beginning and saying "that is flawed" is just echoing the bulk of the article. I would guess your downmodders think you're not adding to the discussion.

I don't buy that argument - why aren't many of the other short comments in this page getting the same treatment when they're not adding to the discussion either?

If you had cut out the "Admittedly I stopped reading the article when I got to" part of your comment, you probably wouldn't have been downvoted. I think the general perception is that it's difficult to add to the discussion of an article if you didn't even bother to read that article, especially when your comment merely echoed the article.

Re: When Patents Attack

#99

Intellectual Ventures recently posted a rebuttal http://intven.com/newsroom/insights/11-07-25/Disruption_Invi... They like to say things like "ideas have value" and that they are "disruptive." Are there examples where the patents they own and monetize actually represent valuable "ideas" and not after the fact claims of invention? I'm guessing not, but open to being proven wrong. And who, or what, do they think they a…

Geez, why did they even bother? I mean it's plain as day that they know what they're doing. These guys are credible technologists who sold their souls to the devil. It's one thing for some business guy looking for a quick buck to become a patent troll, but it sickens me to my very core to even think about Myhrvold and Detkin and what they are knowingly doing to the industry. Even with all the double-talk, Detkin was still acquiescing in the interview about where "most" of their money comes from. The astonishing thing is how they can't even produce a single example of an inventor whom they helped or a product that was brought to market as a result of their "research".

Man if ever I wanted to believe in Hell, these guys are the ones to inspire me.

Re: When Patents Attack

#100
post #58

As the article only touched on, this is precisely why the next computing giant will not come from Silicon Valley or anywhere in the US. The current software patent situation has ensured it.

I doubt it. The next computing giant will want to sell in the US, too. Patent laws don't cover where you're from, they cover where you sell (or where you give away free stuff but make money from ads). You'd have to block all US visitors from your site to avoid the US patent system. I've been thinking about workarounds. Could a "I confirm that I'm from Malaysia" button do the trick?

May be the future companies will price products higher in US markets.
Post reply on HN