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Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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Post by dijit »

soziawa wrote: post #21
dijit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the linux 1Password program is "electron" in name only; it's actually some kind of Rust program; I'm not 100% sure how it works but it's definitely compiled with cargo.

What does Electron in name only mean? Either electron is included or it isn't. Whether you are using Rust through native bindings or through WebAssembly does not really matter does it?

90% of the functionality is written in rust components and the UI is a very slim wrapper around those APIs; it seems.

And even then it looks like the JS is WASM compiled from rust.

It’s not implemented in JavaScript/typescript is what I mean. As such it seems to be lean on my system.

Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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AnonC wrote: post #13

They made the standalone license almost impossible to find and get, forced a subscription on users, and made the password vault storage online for the subscriptions. Now this self-hosting survey comes as a surprise, and it would be of some relief if/when it’s implemented. I do wonder how the licensing and pricing will be handled though. Bitwarden officially allows self-hosting for the personal use tiers, but it seems…

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Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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Post by pscoutou »

AnonC wrote: post #13

They made the standalone license almost impossible to find and get, forced a subscription on users, and made the password vault storage online for the subscriptions. Now this self-hosting survey comes as a surprise, and it would be of some relief if/when it’s implemented. I do wonder how the licensing and pricing will be handled though. Bitwarden officially allows self-hosting for the personal use tiers, but it seems…

> They made the standalone license almost impossible to find and get, forced a subscription on users, and made the password vault storage online for the subscriptions.

1Password recently raised $100 million at a $2 billion valuation.

Looks like they're going down the Dropbox path. Shame as 1Password used to be one of my favorite apps.

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Post by xoa »

featdd wrote: post #6

When I was evaluating which password manager to use I instantly favoroud 1password, but not having the possibility to self host my data was non-negotiable for me. I will definitely stay up to date whether this really comes or not.

FWIW, though it's hard to find nowadays AFAIK the standalone license is still offered and I still use mine with the latest version. You can use unlimited local vaults and network sync them via Dropbox (or a janky WiFi thing). The local sync hasn't gotten any TLC in a while but it works same as always without any limits.

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Post by CrimsonRain »

AnonC wrote: post #13

They made the standalone license almost impossible to find and get, forced a subscription on users, and made the password vault storage online for the subscriptions. Now this self-hosting survey comes as a surprise, and it would be of some relief if/when it’s implemented. I do wonder how the licensing and pricing will be handled though. Bitwarden officially allows self-hosting for the personal use tiers, but it seems…

Enpass works nicely. I can freely share vaults and keep vaults backed up in anyway I prefer. Two downsides:

1. Mobile is paid I think

2. Not open source

Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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Post by aikinai »

microtonal wrote: post #5

Semi-related: this survey was announced alongside 1Password 8 for Windows early access. Apparently 1Password 8 for Windows uses Electron and there was some discussion about AgileBits wanting to move to the same architecture on all platforms. Does anyone know if 1Password 8 on macOS will also be an Electron app? Their Linux Electron app is pretty good and definitely much better than having no 1Password at all. However…

Thanks for the warning about this. I was already disappointed in the direction 1Password has been taking, and moving to Electron would certainly be the last straw. It’s totally reasonable that they want to cheap out on the actual software and expand their business into more lucrative services, but it’s not what I personally want in a password manager. So hopefully someone else, maybe a lone develop that doesn’t need perpetual growth, will make a good, standalone, native Mac password manager.

Keychain itself is getting better and more fleshed out UX, but it’s still not flexible enough to trust for everything unfortunately.

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Post by afavour »

fy20 wrote: post #28
gizdan wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can self-host vaultwarden (formerly bitwarden_rs), which gives full enterprise functionality.

I do this, works perfectly for sharing common passwords among my family (streaming services and utilities mainly). I moved from 1Password, and my main gripe with Bitwarden are the apps aren't as polished. If it's not too expensive I'd consider switching back (1Password family is $60 per year, so I assume this will be less).

I had the exact same experience. I don’t want to care about the app UI etc but when you use a password manager as often as you do it really matters. Not to mention selling the idea to less tech-savvy family members, it really does have to be as simple as can be.

Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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Post by mehanik »

CrimsonRain wrote: post #35
AnonC wrote: post #13

They made the standalone license almost impossible to find and get, forced a subscription on users, and made the password vault storage online for the subscriptions. Now this self-hosting survey comes as a surprise, and it would be of some relief if/when it’s implemented. I do wonder how the licensing and pricing will be handled though. Bitwarden officially allows self-hosting for the personal use tiers, but it seems…

Enpass works nicely. I can freely share vaults and keep vaults backed up in anyway I prefer. Two downsides: 1. Mobile is paid I think 2. Not open source

Agree, I have been using it for years. It has a nice, non-browser based client on all platforms including Linux.

Re: 1password is considering a self-hosted option to store vaults

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Post by manicdee »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #20
featdd wrote: post #6

When I was evaluating which password manager to use I instantly favoroud 1password, but not having the possibility to self host my data was non-negotiable for me. I will definitely stay up to date whether this really comes or not.

What’s wrong with their hosting? I’m happy that I don’t have to manage a hardened up-to-date server just for this.

If you stop paying them, you stop being able to update your passwords. Also if you can't connect to their servers, you can't synchronise your passwords between devices. Also non-US companies will have a concern about storing sensitive material on US-based services given the powers the US is giving itself regarding intercepting communications or seizing data centres.
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